First picture of the 3rd generation!

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Do you like this brilliant top sheet?

I like this brilliant top sheet and I don't mind to stick some pads for the rear foot.
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I prefer a grainy-mat (and not sliding) top sheet like the 2nd generation.
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Total votes: 45

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First picture of the 3rd generation!

Post by fivat » Wednesday 12 September 2007, 18:20

Here is the first picture of a Swoard Extremecarver from the 3rd generation (there in size 168) for the season 2007-2008 :!:

Note the brilliant top sheet! The Swoard team loves it, but: inevitably, the rear foot slides very easily on the board when you are on the lift. Some pads are thus necessary. If you would prefer a grainy-mat (and not sliding) top sheet, you should tell it by voting above! :D In function of your reactions, we have 1-2 weeks left for changing this before starting the stock production!

The picture was shot last Sunday on the glacier of Saas Fee, at 3500m! Your dear Swoard team (specialist and inventor of extremecarving ;-)) has spent a good part of his summer up there, as perfectionists. Jacques Rilliet, our shaper-rider guru, has really done a super job of development with the factory and on the snow: the first prototypes appeared excellent, as well in normal turns as in extremecarving. :bravo: But we have not hesitated to produce other prototypes (despite the costs! 8O ), in sizes 168 and 175, to go still further than the 2nd generation in performances, finishing and solidity. This summer in the Alps was ideal to meet all the conditions we wanted for the tests: ice, hard snow, soft snow, fresh snow. However it's especially on the ice that one feels with more finesse the details and the performances of the boards...

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PS: For the people who would not have seen the official announcement 2007: click here!

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Shiny topsheet

Post by Hans » Wednesday 12 September 2007, 19:33

Nice to hear all worked out fine so far :D :D !

How about this topsheet: The topsheet of my SWOARD 3D (1st. generation) was very sensible to scrathes. How about this one?
Did you do something about the back/bottom of the board to protect against banging on the ground? Just curious.

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Post by rilliet » Wednesday 12 September 2007, 21:09

The nose has an edge all around it.
The tail has a rubber part in the same way as the second generation.
The brilliant topsheet is less scratch sensitive than the 1st generation, but as with any brilliant surface, it is more sensitive than mat/coarse surface because sratches ar more visible.
But I must say that it is so beautiful! As beautiful as a Steinway piano! :pray2:

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Post by vkrouverk » Wednesday 12 September 2007, 22:02

I prefer brilliant one. But with stomp-pad, thus I'd appreciate, if all the textual information on board between bindings is moved (e.g. to the tail of board, after rear binding), so this stomp pad does not cover it. E.g. in my Swoard (1st generation) the opaque stomp-pad covers board serial #. So if board is stolen (5hit happens!), then it's very hard to find out, what the actual # of board is even if someone spots it.
Just a thought...
Converting potential energy to kinetic..

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Pad

Post by Arnaud » Wednesday 12 September 2007, 23:45

Use 2 half pads, and serial number remains visible.
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Pad

Post by Hans » Wednesday 12 September 2007, 23:59

I just use a transparant pad, then you can see the serial and the concept of the board is almost the same/isn't disturbed. I like the piano finish the most, but will always be ugly after some liftbreaks with skiers around, so I prefer that other ugly :doh: one with that mat finish.

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Post by harald » Thursday 13 September 2007, 9:35

The shiny surface looks good. I prefer this and uses transparent stomp pad, as Hans. Then you still can see all the graphics.
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free vahur

Post by nils » Thursday 13 September 2007, 10:00

off topic> someone free vahur from jail please :)
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Post by pokkis » Thursday 13 September 2007, 10:11

off-topic continues:
Nils, that is sailors uniform :wink:

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Post by nils » Thursday 13 September 2007, 10:41

i prefer the glossy personnaly, it makes the swoard burgondy deeper and classy and the serigraphy looks way neater this way too.... remember we are not using cheap printed topsheet with pixels from inkjet, but silkscreen technology which gives much bigger precision in the lettering etc... and it shows when u have a glossy topsheet :)

If a transparent pad is needed, i'll get one :)

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Post by István » Thursday 13 September 2007, 11:57

I think the glossy one is way more beautiful.

And it is easy to get some transparent pads. You do not even need a big one, just stick on a few small round ones, it'll do.

Anyway, this pad issue is a bit exaggerated... especially on these wide body boards... who says he/she cannot do the pull lift without pads?


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Post by pokkis » Thursday 13 September 2007, 12:06

Istvan, pads have, atleast for me :wink: , two things: slipery protection and protect also top surface from scratching under boot PLUS also as tool to get snow out from boot heels 8)
And for each case i really like them, specially slipery thing, on long bumpy lift lines and loose snow it is pain to hang on lift whole day without pad. Doing it few times is not problem but some people ride long days :roll:

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Pads

Post by fivat » Thursday 13 September 2007, 12:08

István wrote:Anyway, this pad issue is a bit exaggerated... especially on these wide body boards... who says he/she cannot do the pull lift without pads?
This brilliant top sheet is nicer and stronger than the 1st generation, but it is very very slippery... as I have experienced it. Some riders could have surprises on the lift if they use no pads ;-)

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Re: Pads

Post by pokkis » Thursday 13 September 2007, 12:41

fivat wrote:This brilliant top sheet is nicer and stronger than the 1st generation, but it is very very slippery... as I have experienced it. Some riders could have surprises on the lift if they use no pads ;-)
I have also few boards :wink: which are feeling very slipery also.

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Post by Ironmike » Thursday 13 September 2007, 14:08

I'd prefer the shiny topsheet as it looks way more attractive, on the other hand we all have to take into account that sooner or later we're all faced with scratches on the topsheet and then a mat topsheet would be better. I think it depends massively on the chosen Pics/Style/colour/Fonts.
With clear and accurate Fonts however - like it is now on the 3rd gen. with the words "Swoard" and "Extremecarver"- you got to have a glossy, shiny topsheet.

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