Swoard-EC technique lessons by BEN
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Swoard-EC technique lessons by BEN
Short educational video which I promised.
evGen=ben velvet.pro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jVztPStsEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jVztPStsEA
- fivat
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Re: Swoard-EC technique lessons by BEN
Excellent video Ben! It gathers in a better and different way our first tutorial videos from 2002 ( https://www.extremecarving.com/tech/tech.html ). Probably we should place your video in the page too.
I have a small remark for the students about the "4. Frontside laid turn" sequence. Cross the slope already low on the legs and then push the legs when you lay down. The video gives the feeling that one has to pull the legs (instead of push) because Ben is quite straight in the transitions.
Same thing for the "5. Backside laid turn" sequence. Cross the slope with bent legs (crouched) and then extend the legs (push) when laying down.
Of course at the end of the laid turns you pull the legs to stand up naturally and then you are ready for the next turn (stay crouched in the transition).
Push-pull technique (the term was invented by Jacques) for extremecarving is exactly the opposite of what the racers do: they crouch aggressively during the turns (to add pressure on the edge), and they extend the legs in the transitions. That's why the setup is very different for racing (in particular stiff boots resist to the pressure): it's a different goal, that's all. Mastering both techniques very well requires different setups and boards.
Patrice Fivat

I have a small remark for the students about the "4. Frontside laid turn" sequence. Cross the slope already low on the legs and then push the legs when you lay down. The video gives the feeling that one has to pull the legs (instead of push) because Ben is quite straight in the transitions.
Same thing for the "5. Backside laid turn" sequence. Cross the slope with bent legs (crouched) and then extend the legs (push) when laying down.
Of course at the end of the laid turns you pull the legs to stand up naturally and then you are ready for the next turn (stay crouched in the transition).
Push-pull technique (the term was invented by Jacques) for extremecarving is exactly the opposite of what the racers do: they crouch aggressively during the turns (to add pressure on the edge), and they extend the legs in the transitions. That's why the setup is very different for racing (in particular stiff boots resist to the pressure): it's a different goal, that's all. Mastering both techniques very well requires different setups and boards.
Patrice Fivat
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harald, the guy in Norway who are capable to learn EC-riding has no competition. Learning EC is not Evgeny business idea, so you can earn money without author fees, but you need to have your own methodologyharald wrote:Just excellent![]()
I was considering putting up EC-classes for NOK 500 pr. hour
but now Ben has ruined my business idea
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500NOK is overprice i think

But in Norway everything is expensive

i`m learning
Re: Swoard-EC technique lessons by BEN
He keeps saying itfivat wrote:I have a small remark for the students about the "4. Frontside laid turn" sequence. Cross the slope already low on the legs and then push the legs when you lay down. The video gives the feeling that one has to pull the legs (instead of push) because Ben is quite straight in the transitions.
Same thing for the "5. Backside laid turn" sequence. Cross the slope with bent legs (crouched) and then extend the legs (push) when laying down.
Of course at the end of the laid turns you pull the legs to stand up naturally and then you are ready for the next turn (stay crouched in the transition).
Patrice Fivat

And he couldn't be more right on this point... one thing to keep in mind though, the stance on your board should allow you to keep a deep position when crossing the slope, as I experienced (and alerted by Patrice) my stance was too close to eachother which prevented me from getting in that position at all
So if you've covered the settings page ( https://www.extremecarving.com/tech/set.html ) as I did (finally in a good way), feel free to master the above mentioned by fellow extremecarvers
SWOARD EC Pro 175XH, F2 Race Titanium, UPZ EC12, Head Stratos Pro ACSS attached personal by Arnaud;)
Teaching Video
Great job on the teaching video and fantastic riding Ben, very nice to watch!
A video like this, to me, shows how the EC discipline is slowly and steadily maturing. It continues to be amazing to me how a decade after J & P launched the EC site that did such a great job of teaching, sharing and demonstrating where carving could go, how their dreams and ideas continue to spread around the world! Too cool and what a positive feeling.
I also found the 'Longitudinal Work' demonstration very interesting and a great visual, something I had never seen or thought of before. Breaking down the steps and skills of EC riding and being able to communicate them to a student is a key part of growing Alpine and ECing. IMHO the more of this type of information that exists on the EC site the better.
Question(s):
If possible, could you comment on how the longitudinal work affects an EC student's riding?
Example: When have you found it useful to 'do' this longitudinal demonstration for a student? At what point in their development?
Example: As an EC teacher, do you see a common error, that the Longitudinal Work is able to correct? What mistake can this 'fix'?
Thank you for your efforts.
Rob
A video like this, to me, shows how the EC discipline is slowly and steadily maturing. It continues to be amazing to me how a decade after J & P launched the EC site that did such a great job of teaching, sharing and demonstrating where carving could go, how their dreams and ideas continue to spread around the world! Too cool and what a positive feeling.
I also found the 'Longitudinal Work' demonstration very interesting and a great visual, something I had never seen or thought of before. Breaking down the steps and skills of EC riding and being able to communicate them to a student is a key part of growing Alpine and ECing. IMHO the more of this type of information that exists on the EC site the better.
Question(s):
If possible, could you comment on how the longitudinal work affects an EC student's riding?
Example: When have you found it useful to 'do' this longitudinal demonstration for a student? At what point in their development?
Example: As an EC teacher, do you see a common error, that the Longitudinal Work is able to correct? What mistake can this 'fix'?
Thank you for your efforts.
Rob
This is much more than I expected.mirekd wrote:
Hi BEN(Evgen) !
You have done a great job recording the movie 'Training on Volchiha' - I see that you have the talent and "feel the dance '.
We ask you (if possible) to repeat the movie but an approximation of your body while driving. This will be for many of us are very helpful in training EC.
Sincerely yours
mirekd
BEN(evGen) replied:
Hi mirekd!
Video is finished already shooting, a few patience, soon will see.
and 07.04.2011:
Short educational video which I promised.
Thanks, on behalf of itself and other beginners ...
mirekd

Like "joemzl" and others - extreme dreamer every day...
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Push-pull and extremecarving sequences
For the people who didn't know those two videos which gather many different sequences in a progressive way:
(in slower motion)
Patrice Fivat


Patrice Fivat