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lobella
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by lobella » Saturday 27 November 2004, 15:38
Hi
take a look at this board, I ve found it new never used from the 1997,
a Crazy Banana board with interesting measures:
lenght: 1720mm
waist width : 215mm
sidecut radius: 14000mm
I' ve overlapped the SWOARD and this board and it really seems a SWOARD ante litteram
it seems to have enough torsional and longitudinal stifness, ( empirically tested by hand ) at least like my Oxygen Proton but less than my Madd 170, next week I' ll test it.
bye bye
Lorenzo

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by nils » Saturday 27 November 2004, 19:23
Never heard of that model, thougt crazy banana vanished in the late 80's!
Nice clone jacques, you shouldn't copy other people shapes!!!
N.
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István
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by István » Monday 29 November 2004, 9:36
Similarity speeks for itself, there must be some rationale behind..... maybe not that Jacques copied the Swoard, but this Craza Banana might be a copy of something that was the predecessor of Swoard.
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raphael
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by raphael » Monday 29 November 2004, 11:54
I may be wrong, but i think the shape of the Swoard is mostly like older alpine boards.
So why not just buy an old alpine, cheaper than a Swoard ? Because what's new in the Swoard is not the shape, it's the ATC matrix, without it your large alpine would not have enough tortional stifness.
By the way, the mix of the two designs matches quite nicely. Nice pic

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pokkis
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by pokkis » Monday 29 November 2004, 12:37
But question is, if you draw board with radius of 13 m and center width of 22cm, how that can look ? Only difference can be shape of nose ie how soon it starts to bend and same thing on tail too.
If you look carefully pic, there is clear shape difference on nose area, Swoard has more extended running length which makes it having tighter radius on nose area, shown red in pic.
I think we can put top-to-top any modern boards with pretty similar dimmensions and all of them look egual.
Differences are on flex pattern, camber, stiffnes and torsional stiffnes and they are not visible on pic. They make board work, better or even better

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raphael
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by raphael » Monday 29 November 2004, 13:21
Well, that was my point too.

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lobella
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by lobella » Monday 29 November 2004, 15:23
...for my opinion the similarity derived obviously from the lenght, waist width and radius, ( the nose is in fact different ) but i think, me too, that the real SWOARD innovation is the ATC matrix....by the way, I' ll let you know the response after the board test ( next week ).