hi there!
i have a question - do i need a conshoxplate for my F2 Silberpfeil or not? any experiences? cuase i have no idea aboute the plate...
thanks for your answers!
cheers rebä
conshox plate f2
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Conshox
Hey,
I used to ride my Silberpfeil with Conshox. For me it felt more stiff, stable and gave more edge-grip.
I believe it depends on your weight and style, if you are not heavy enough the board might become too stiff for you. I'm 90kg+ and 188cm, so for me it was pretty much OK.
There are 2 more things with Silberpfeil. One, is that in softer snow the nose tends to dig into the snow. Conshox will make this happen easier and more often.
The second is that depending on your foot size you might have to apply too high angles. For me F63 B57 fitted for 2 seasons, then when I really learned how to lay it down totally on a backside, I perceived that my heel touched the snow, hence decreased edge preassure and skidding.
After that I applied F66 B63 which is really uncomfortable, but this was the lowest angel I could use to avoid the boot overhanging.
Hope I could help.
Cheers,
István
I used to ride my Silberpfeil with Conshox. For me it felt more stiff, stable and gave more edge-grip.
I believe it depends on your weight and style, if you are not heavy enough the board might become too stiff for you. I'm 90kg+ and 188cm, so for me it was pretty much OK.
There are 2 more things with Silberpfeil. One, is that in softer snow the nose tends to dig into the snow. Conshox will make this happen easier and more often.
The second is that depending on your foot size you might have to apply too high angles. For me F63 B57 fitted for 2 seasons, then when I really learned how to lay it down totally on a backside, I perceived that my heel touched the snow, hence decreased edge preassure and skidding.
After that I applied F66 B63 which is really uncomfortable, but this was the lowest angel I could use to avoid the boot overhanging.
Hope I could help.
Cheers,
István
Re: Conshox
Hello Istvan,István wrote:Hey,
After that I applied F66 B63 which is really uncomfortable, but this was the lowest angel I could use to avoid the boot overhanging.
You ride a Virus, are you saying the F2 Silber is narrower then the Virus?
I thaught they were just a little bit broader then a skwal?
Or you have a special one?
Cheers.
M@.
SWOARD 168H / BLAST 162 / Burton Race / SB324
SWOARD 168H / BLAST 162 / Burton Race / SB324
I used F2 Silberpfeil with Conshox before Swoard. If you consider Silberpfeil or other F2 board, then Conshox is good idea (if you can afford it). I had chance to test Silberpfeil without Conshox as well and Conshox added considerable amount of stability and confidence.
About high angles: SP is narrow, but Conshox adds 8 mm of height, so you can use it with smaller angles than without (perhaps even with little overhang without problems).
SP vs. Swoard: SP requires more work and aggressive riding, with Swoard you just change edge and board goes like on rail. SP has smaller sidecut radius, so it's not for high speed. Even with Conshox it feels more unstable than Swoard. It's narrowness makes body position more awkward (at least I feel so, on other hand some people don't like wider boards). In slush SP is really hard to drive, same during sideslipping.
Bottom line: I'd buy Swoard. If this is not an option, then I'd steal Swoard (well, not really
). If this is not option, then I'd look for something similar to Swoard: 12-13 m. sidecut, 21-22 cm. width. IIRC, Virus had something alike as new model and perhaps something like this could be found/ordered from Coiler/Donek/Prior.
But it's just me, I like Swiss riding style very much and I feel, that Swoard is perfect for this purpose: supports natural body position, allows you to ride with minimal effort and makes it visually pleasant (the adrenaline rush from riding is experienced only by rider, but visually appealing riding style can be shared by all people on mountain or is someone tapes it, then by all the people on Earth ).
Those, who race or use French style or have other preferences, don't need to agree with me
About high angles: SP is narrow, but Conshox adds 8 mm of height, so you can use it with smaller angles than without (perhaps even with little overhang without problems).
SP vs. Swoard: SP requires more work and aggressive riding, with Swoard you just change edge and board goes like on rail. SP has smaller sidecut radius, so it's not for high speed. Even with Conshox it feels more unstable than Swoard. It's narrowness makes body position more awkward (at least I feel so, on other hand some people don't like wider boards). In slush SP is really hard to drive, same during sideslipping.
Bottom line: I'd buy Swoard. If this is not an option, then I'd steal Swoard (well, not really
). If this is not option, then I'd look for something similar to Swoard: 12-13 m. sidecut, 21-22 cm. width. IIRC, Virus had something alike as new model and perhaps something like this could be found/ordered from Coiler/Donek/Prior. But it's just me, I like Swiss riding style very much and I feel, that Swoard is perfect for this purpose: supports natural body position, allows you to ride with minimal effort and makes it visually pleasant (the adrenaline rush from riding is experienced only by rider, but visually appealing riding style can be shared by all people on mountain or is someone tapes it, then by all the people on Earth
). Those, who race or use French style or have other preferences, don't need to agree with me
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Silberpfeil vs. Virus
Hi Matt,
Indeed, this a special EC model with approx. 22cm wais width.
Older Virus boards I have seen were very narrow, 14-15cm. I believe this new model was inspired by Swoard. (Frank from Virus might kill me for this statement, while on the other hand Swoard team will love me...)
Cheers,
István
Indeed, this a special EC model with approx. 22cm wais width.
Older Virus boards I have seen were very narrow, 14-15cm. I believe this new model was inspired by Swoard. (Frank from Virus might kill me for this statement, while on the other hand Swoard team will love me...)
Cheers,
István
Matt, there is no "Real EC" model, as this is not yet on their product palette. (check their website) This is a custom made board, I believe from the "Team" series. I can send you a picture of it, if you wish.
My only suggestion is that we stop this conversation on the forum and switch into private mode, I believe it is not too polite to discuss specs of a competitor's product on an open forum ran by an other manufacturer.
I respect what the Swoard guys do and I do not want to be rude with them by advertising an other product here.
Cheers,
István
My only suggestion is that we stop this conversation on the forum and switch into private mode, I believe it is not too polite to discuss specs of a competitor's product on an open forum ran by an other manufacturer.
I respect what the Swoard guys do and I do not want to be rude with them by advertising an other product here.
Cheers,
István