Scott Strike + a lot of questions:(

[Malecky]

Hi!

I am a fresh member and I am totaly in to carving and now...extremecarving

I am 20 years old and I have started snowboarding in 1995 before that I was skiing till I finaly gave up on those stupid sticks and started to have phun on the snow again

In 2002 I sold 2 snowboards... A Nitro Scorpion slalom board, and an very old custom made Hooger Eurocarve 166 which I was riding last. Selling the Hooger and buying completely new equipment was the biggest mistake I have ever done, from that moment on was not riding as I should have been.

I bought a Scott Strike 163, It is very simmular to a F2 Silberpfeil that I am interested in now. When I first mounted the scott I did it by feeling...but without thinking what I was doing and looks like I have gotten it all wrong. With the Hooger I was riding very well, at least I was carving as hell and I could get my elbows on the snow in good conditions but on the strike I cannot even get a good carve thru

Yesterday I started exploring the net and I found you guys...doing things I only dream of lately an even making me cry when looking at you videos
I am going to buy a new board and I can get f2 pretty easily...I also saw the sword but cannot afford it and probably cannot ride it. yet!

I want to buy a f2 Speedster SL 166 becouse its sounds easy to carve and I hope I can switch to the sword in a year or two. I am 183cm tall and weigh 90kg.

I want to start snowboarding all over again and slowly progress to EC so I will be arround here very often so please help

[tommaso2k]

Hi,

i have never ridden a Speedster SL 166 but maybe the sidecut of 9.8 is a little bit to small for EC. Also it could be that the board is to soft and the edge grip is not enough because it is designed for SL and quick edge changes - maybe someone can help out who has knowledge about this board.

But you can read some reviews of this board on:

http://www.bomberonline.com/reviews/boards.htm

Hope this helps.

Greets

Tommaso

[skywalker]

Hi,

I don't know the SL, too, but there are several points to admit. First it's oo narrow, second it's to short for you. If you want a cheap board to learn carving from new, try to get an older carving-board at ebay or at the local shop. Thre are still some boards with at least 21 cm width available (most of them used), that will help you much better than the F2. So forget about the price, because when it doesn't fit, it is worth nothing!

And don't forget to read all about riding-technic on the extremecarving-page and the Cern-Ski-Club Page! Do this, before you buy a new board ). I hope, I could help you!

Tom

[Malecky]

Hi!

Thanks for the reply tomasso.

I chose the SL becouse of the reviews on bomber. I kind of lost trust in race boards and hope to gain it again with the Speedster SL becouse of its smaller radius and lenght, but I dont want to make a mistake that will drive me farther away from EC than I am now with the scott strike 163.

I need to adjust my angles and stance. I read all the guides on bomber and found out I did not use 10% of them

My stance is 46cm on the 163cm long board
Angles are 63/58

After reading the guides I will now try to reccorect this by setting a wider stance and decreasing my angles by as much as I can, but the board is 19cm wide at the waste...so no room for 55/50

The ride now is like....weightlifting...I push pull jump from turn to turn to get the board to carve and it can kill me in an hour of ridding I do not feel good with my setup but untill now didnt know what to change.

Still need advice on wether to switch boards or try to ride the strike with a changed setup like mentioned above. I leave for Kromplatz in 10 days for a week of snowboarding...and I dont knoe if I could get my moneys worth with this setup.

So much to change and so little time to do it.

[pokkis]

Optimum naturally would have Sword but you can practice EC also with other boards.
If EC is your goal, then more important is flex and radius of board than width. One can EC on narrow board too but radius should be right level as well flex should be soft enough. And that radius is usually problem with shortish boards, side cut is usually too short, many times under 10M which will make it turn too fast when properly canted.

[Malecky]

hi.

I live in slovenia and access to ebay is limited..

A guy is selling a Burton Speed 164cm..could this board be a good start? It is quite wide and is quite a Swoard easy going loookalike

[Malecky]

Optimum naturally would have Sword but you can practice EC also with other boards.
If EC is your goal, then more important is flex and radius of board than width. One can EC on narrow board too but radius should be right level as well flex should be soft enough. And that radius is usually problem with shortish boards, side cut is usually too short, many times under 10M which will make it turn too fast when properly canted.

Ok I gave up on the Speedster SL for a while and right now I am trying to reposition my Strike.

How does this strike I own now fit me? I think its 5cm too short and to stiff. The hooger that I liked was 166cm long a bit wider at the waist and very very soft.

What about a 168cm Silberpfeil? I would like a board that I can ride in mixed conditions an the piste here gets very bumpy after 3-4 hours

That Burton Speed looks good...does it realy?

[István]

Malecky,

I ride an F2 Silberpfeil, 172cm, 63 57, with conshox (very stiff!!!) and it is feasible to EC with it. However, I'm also about to change to a longer, softer and wider board (SWOARD 175H) and a lower angle, because the guys around here convinced me that it would make EC easier. Let's see.

What I wanted to say is that if you stick to F2, than rather pick Silberpfeil 172 cm. Once I had an F2 Speadster GTS, 163, and I am telling you, it was very soft and too short. If I pushed hard I felt over the nose.

Concerning places to buy, why don't you go to Austria, it is very close to you. If you go to Möltall and around, you should be able to find new/used models kinda cheap. I think it's less than 100 km from Ljubljana. (I do not know if you actualy live in Ljubjana, but the Slovenia is kinda small, so you can't be that far from the border) Now it's almost end of the season, so it's a good time to buy now.

I'm about the same size like you (188 cm, 87 kg, but was 97 last year...) and I suggest that you do not buy a board shorter than 170 cm.

Hope I could help.


Cheers,

István

[Malecky]

Hi istvan!

Thx for all the advice guys!

I experimented with my Strike right now and I found out it has a 5cm setback???? WTF? Isnt that way too much? And I have been riding it with a setback of more than 6cm! Maybe this is why I've not been able to get all out of my equipment

I forgot all about buying an f2 Speedster now My brother is a snowboard instructor and we do go to Moltall once or twice a year (the last year has not been good 4 me...I almost gave up ).

I do get a discount of 20+ % on f2 boards so if I buy a new one it does not hit me that hard, but still is 50% cheaper than a Swoard which I would realy like to own.

I am a bit "sceptic" on how a 170cm+ board would suite me but I think it is a must for my size.

I will try to buy a 172 f2 Silberpfeil before I go to Kromplatz, I cant miss that much can I? But a 10cm longer board as I have now will take some time to get use too

How about boots and bindings?

These are my boots Blax stratus:

http://members.tirol.com/usp-austria/stra.html

And bindings Profile carbon:

http://members.tirol.com/usp-austria/pc.html

I dont know if anyone uses them but the complete setup feels kinda soft, but this is more of how you are use to them if I am not mistaken.

Istvan are you from Austria?

ThX!

[Malecky]

I just got word from the dealer that they already sold all boards made even the prototype that I wantet to get and f2 are not making 2005 moddels yet so I'm pretty much boardless. I will try to get a second opinion tomorow but...

If anyone from Austria is selling a 172 Silberpfeil I would gladly buy it

[Hans]

I just got word from the dealer that they already sold all boards made even the prototype that I wantet to get and f2 are not making 2005 moddels yet so I'm pretty much boardless. I will try to get a second opinion tomorow but...

If anyone from Austria is selling a 172 Silberpfeil I would gladly buy it

Here is one, with some discount, http://www.blue-tomato.at/shop/FrameSet.asp, euro 450,50, from the biggest carve/snowboardshop from Europe (may be in the world too). You have this board within a day or three.

Greets, Hans.

[Malecky]

Yes you have it...in the end it would cost me more than a Swoard becouse of customs, taxes and becouse I live in Slovenia!!!!

I cant wait till 1.may when we join the EU! Then I'll be able to get stuff and will not get ripped off here anymore...I would get the Silberpfeil for arround 350€ here...have contacts

[Hans]

Glad I could help you a little, gonna see those guys from blue-tomato next week from 21/2 till 28/2 because I am gonna have a week holiday there and make the slopes unsafe with my SWOARD. Gonna try to make serious work from practicing ECcarving. Some other SWOARDcarvers or any other carvers around there at that time?

Greets, Hans.