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Rear Binding Heel Bail

Post by rcrobar » Saturday 10 February 2007, 19:10

Hi Istvan

I have not had any problems with the shoulder bolts, only the bails. I always seem to break the same bail in the same location on the bail.

The heel bail of the rear binding is where I have problems.

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Post by harald » Monday 12 February 2007, 10:13

Hi Rob,
Thanks even if the news are not that good. Due to the late snow, I hope the new bails will last the rest of the season. I have spare bails and also my F2s. What I fear is twisting my leg and then the walk down from the mountain.
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Re: A defect in Bomber TD2?

Post by The Blitz » Thursday 24 January 2008, 10:03

Katsunori wrote:It is my broken bolt (image below).
a lot of same trouble happening in the world ?
:x
Same problem for my brother yesterday...but fortunatly just after the end of ski-lift. (thx to Bebert33 for tools)

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Post by Vitaly » Thursday 24 January 2008, 16:04

Istvбn wrote:Who was the unlucky owner of thr broken Virus ME109? I have one as well (and I think there are not many more out there... :twisted: especially after having this one broken....) but mine feels so stiff that I cannot imagine braking it..... but who knows.....

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that board was of mine! :)

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Post by István » Thursday 24 January 2008, 16:13

How could you break that monster? You jumped from a helicopter and landed on rocks? ;-)

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Post by Vitaly » Thursday 24 January 2008, 17:04

Istvбn wrote:How could you break that monster? You jumped from a helicopter and landed on rocks? ;-)
I do not understand it, and Frank so too!
Simply so happens...
I've ride on simple blue slopes and even not on red...
The first season used Catek OS1 (L), the second has decided to try OS2 (L). Topsheet has risen . Same Inserts is go out of the wood.
Now the snowboard is repaired. But still did not try to ride
Master of repair said that's was not good glue contact. So or not so - I don't know.

I think Catek and Bomber not good bindings for wide snowboards. Not because it's a metal bindings. Simply their design works as naildrawer of inserts - the long jack from a point of a stay.

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Quality problems

Post by fivat » Thursday 24 January 2008, 17:23

I do understand it.
We got many quality problems and defects with this snowboard factory last year (besides the big delivery delays and other problems). We have good statistics with all the boards that we made produce.
A too big ratio of boards broke or delaminated... Not only the top, but also the base (in between the feet)... what I had never seen in my life!
Of course we have replaced all the boards under warranty, sometimes with the 3rd generation (2008) made with our new partner (at our own cost, while the responsible factory should have paid! :-( )
We lost all trust in the previous factory.

About the bindings: for the wide boards and the metal boards, it's now finally admitted that one needs not too stiff bindings.

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Post by István » Thursday 24 January 2008, 17:40

So far I had good experience with my Viruses. I ride TD2s on all of these, no issues or whatsoever, although I am not a light one and I push it hard to the extent of my abilities.

Except one of my Zylons where I landed on the tail after a huge flip and the tail got stuck.... but that I would rather call an accident.

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Post by fivat » Thursday 24 January 2008, 17:47

You have very small statistics compared to us! :tongue:

I can send you pictures in private if you wish... Write me an e-mail.

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Re: Quality problems

Post by Freecarver » Thursday 24 January 2008, 20:07

fivat wrote:About the bindings: for the wide boards and the metal boards, it's now finally admitted that one needs not too stiff bindings.
Maybe Lexan Plates do help.
Their are highly recommended especially on metal boards.
The pattern can be downloaded by Catek and I think everyone can make them at home.
Just an idea. :think:

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Lexan Plates

Post by fivat » Thursday 24 January 2008, 20:35

Yes!

What are the other brands making such plates?

Do you know exactly what the Schoch brothers are using?

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Re: Lexan Plates

Post by Freecarver » Friday 25 January 2008, 8:22

fivat wrote:Do you know exactly what the Schoch brothers are using?
The Schoch brothers are using Vist plates

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one of reason

Post by Katsunori » Friday 25 January 2008, 13:01

I think,
one of reason is 'Boots slant'

'A' ...... closer both knees ( with small power )
'B' ...... Pull the bail  ( with BIG power , By the leverage effect )

shoulder bolt is work so hard !
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