Custom Board on piste

[kolos]

Hi, this board is custom evolution of EC, look at this .. it's working!! L

[skywalker]

Hey Kolos!

Give us some more facts, please!
Who is manufacturer of this board, where is it available?
What are the board's specs (besides 180c, length)?
How did you find ist? Any experiences (own ore somewhere on the internet)?

Thanks

skywalker

[kolos]

Give us some more facts, please!
Who is manufacturer of this board, where is it available?
What are the board's specs (besides 180c, length)?
How did you find ist? Any experiences (own ore somewhere on the internet)?

Hi Luke,
some details on att. pict., and made by Pirate Custom Workshop in Hungary.
http://www.pirateboards.com
The material is really hard (not a lightly), hardwood-core Kevlar-Xply vacuum sandwich board for hard carving, like the limousine on mountain.
On last week we tested 2 piece (for 80kg and for 100kg rider) in Turrach, and was really impressive.
We'll take 3 piece .. to Zinal.
Have a Nice Day ..

[Silber]

It looks like the revolution has taken place..

Pricing of this new vessel?

[nils]

we'll see but i'm not sure this board can take huge loads of pressure on the nose without biting well... nose shape and curve is something that takes years of definition so its optimal for EC... hope they mastered the flex too, cos too much kevlar might lead to stiff baby that is hard to EC.

Anyway, yes revolution on its way!
Nils

[GrimReaper]

It looks great!

[gabor]

I tested one of its ancestor two years ago. It was very impressive! I've never ridden such a wide alpin board before (and I like 18-19 cm waist widths). With normal carving turns it was like a damp board and was really forgiving. Riding on steeps and ice it had excellent edge hold, was hard to break out of the carve. For me it was the ultimate extremecarving weapon.

The only disadvantage was its weight.

I'm very curious about comparing it to Swoards. Please write the results.

[fivat]

I've never ridden such a wide alpin board before
[...]
For me it was the ultimate extremecarving weapon.

What a paradox. How can you use the term "ultimate weapon" while this the only wide Alpine board you have ever tried

Wide boards are not extremecarving boards simply because they are wide (hihi, otherwise any freestyle board would be an "extremecarving" board ).

So please don't make comparison when you have tried only one board. At least you can say that the first wide board you have tried gives different feelings compared to narrow boards (not better, but different). It may require also a different technique for some riders.

Swoard IS the ultimate extremecarving weapon since:
- the technique to manage to LINK the laid turns
- the style (explained in this Web site too)
- the word "extremecarving" itself
were invented and developed / improved thanks to the Swoard. Width is not a secret. All what is inside the Swoard and the know-how are the secrets, as a result of many years of experience while the market was focusing only on narrow boards

It's possible to lay down turns with any wide board (including freestyle boards, yes yes!). But the Swoard makes extremecarving much easier! The full laid turns can be linked with fluidity and stability.

Join us at the ECS to make significant tests. Many many wide boards!

Patrice Fivat

[nils]

Beware: Patrice is our ultimate marketing wide weapon too
N.

[gabor]

My bad english...

To sum up, the board was torsionally stiff, longitudinally moderately stiff, it had excellent edge hold (and I can compare it to race boards). Believe or not it made the feelings what you tell us about Swoards. Not everything liked, but laid out push-pull type turns were easy compared to GS race boards.
Maybe other manufacturers can have experience, years of development and know how as well.

[kolos]

Hi, i think the ExtremeCarving style is really delicious, who made it up?!
he's a character in sport, and high honours for improvement ..
the SWOARD boards are on perfect way .. and way for it.

.. but you've got a chance for custom-product with your own measurement, don't hesitate ..


Patrice & Jacques a really marketing weapon, cheers

[nils]

Jacques and Patrice developped the extremecarving style in the 1994-1999 period after Jacques started making wide prototypes. The style is about linking laid turns smoothly. It is inspired by the first Vitelli turns that were laid out frontside turns, that were later masterized by Jean Nerva. More than ten years of time were needed before it was possible to link the backsides to the frontsides in the same laid style.
Jacques, Patrice and I are trying, since the foundation of Swoard, to promote extremecarving, but mostly the rotational technique associated with the push pull turns that can dramatically increase each rider level, by providing more stability whatever snow tool is used.
Swoard is the brand we created because we wanted everyone to be able to do the same turns as the one Jacques and Patrice master. It still will take time before we see people reaching same level, but what we see abroad, and also at the Zinal meeting tells me soon we'll see people with the same style.
Next step will be extremecarving turns without touching the snow....a good challenge for the next 20 years for us !

Hope this answers a few questions you may have.... check also the Forum and the site, and the philosophy behind it.

Nils

[Silber]

Nils...I have already mastered that!!! last saturday i did a perfect laid turn without touching the snow...until I landed nose down off track...

[Arnaud]

i did a perfect laid turn without touching the snow...until I landed nose down off track

Yes, perfect "aerial twisted" turn ! Next time, try to add a "grab" : better for pictures

[István]

Francesco, for some reasons it does not surprise me........ what's the damage? Bruises, broken equipment, broken bones?


Ciao