Canting Wedges

[farm]

Hello,

I got a new snowboard for Christmas (F2 Silberpfeil 17/18 168) and while installing the bindings (F2 Intec Titanium) I noticed the 4° canting wedges. I think they were preinstalled and never much questioned them. The manual of the bindings says that with steeper angles then 55° (which I now have to use because of the snowboard’s width) it makes senses to remove them from the front bindings and use it as toe lifts. So toe lift in the front and keep the canting wedges in the back?

I read somewhere that the use of canting wedges depends on the body structure. When I stand straight about two fingers fit between the knees, I think that’s a more or less normal alignment. Also I’m something like 186 cm tall and now use a binding angulation of 60°/52°.

I have been snowboarding for many years but never really thought much about the technical aspect, so I would appreciate your thoughts on this very much!

[jax]

Ciao
With that angles you don't need the canting.
I use the two small canting paced one against the other to make a small flat lift under the tiptoe of the front foot, under the rear foot the big lift that comes with the bindings.
I think that you have too much different angles maybe try 60/55

[farm]

Ciao! Thanks so much for your reply!

I think I will remove the canting wedges for the next session then to see what it does, and then try a rear foot lift.

[joemzl]

For that case your body center point will move forward.
Use some setback or the toe lift to keep your body centered.

[farm]

Cheers! What setback would you recommend? I think I do have something like 3 cm already.

[pokkis]

Having those two thin ones makes setback like 3mm

[joemzl]

Cheers! What setback would you recommend? I think I do have something like 3 cm already.

Should be enough.
Better choice: no heel lift and no setback.
But, try both setups and find out which one gives you a better feeling.

[pokkis]

Are you measuring setback from insert setup or from board sidecuts?

[farm]

Are you measuring setback from insert setup or from board sidecuts?

I read somewhere that you should measure it from the widest part of the nose and the widest part of the tail. If I measure it from the setup holes of the board I pretty much get the same value. Is it possible that the Silberpfeil has a default setback of something like those 3 cm already?

[pokkis]

Normally boards have inserts setup with 2-4cm setback. And bindings are setup symmetrically to inserts, not to real center.

[farm]

Normally boards have inserts setup with 2-4cm setback. And bindings are setup symmetrically to inserts, not to real center.

Not sure if I understand you correctly but I think I’m riding the Silberpfeil’s default setback, which must be something like 3 cm.

[farm]

So as suggested I changed the angles to 60/55 and removed the small inward canting wedges from both bindings. I think it felt more natural and right, although the conditions also changed (lots of fresh snow here in Austria).

Maybe I felt more pressure on the front midfoot though. Hm. Would it make sense to test a toe lift now? Alone or in combination with with a heel lift? Unfortunately I never used either of it.

[jax]

So as suggested I changed the angles to 60/55 and removed the small inward canting wedges from both bindings. I think it felt more natural and right, although the conditions also changed (lots of fresh snow here in Austria).

Maybe I felt more pressure on the front midfoot though. Hm. Would it make sense to test a toe lift now? Alone or in combination with with a heel lift? Unfortunately I never used either of it.

I use small toe lift and bigger heel lift

[pokkis]

If you have Deeluxe, you dont need toe lift.
Nothwave, UPZ and Mountainslope have so high heel lift that no tail lift requiered for free carving.
Some folks prefer for those small toe lift.
For extreme long stance also Deeluxe requires for some folks also toe lift on front

[farm]

Thank you for the comments! I have UPZ boots.