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Vitaly
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by Vitaly » Sunday 12 June 2005, 23:46
Hello all!
Tell to me please. If snowboard 175 (for carving) has weight of 5.5 kg, without bindings. Is it normal weight or heavy?
What weight Swoard 175 or ather brand snowboard same size?

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by nils » Monday 13 June 2005, 10:52
Hi Vitaly
The actual 3D 175 is about 3.9 kilos. The future 2D is about 4 kilos. The boards are relatively light for their size due to the use of light core.
Hope this helps!
why 5.5 kilos?
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by Vitaly » Monday 13 June 2005, 12:55
Thanks Nills. I waited for this answer!
I do not know why at me a heavy board! I shall try to learn about board at manufacture company.
It's big difference
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by nils » Monday 13 June 2005, 16:09
Not sure to fully understand what you mean
Anyway: Welcome here! I know more and more Russians are coming to carving, and its nice to see you around!
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by Vitaly » Monday 13 June 2005, 18:53
Wow! Excuse me!I have mistake!
My board have weight 4 kg.
I have measured!
5.5 kg is written on a packing post box

(with packaging)
Nills, earlier I wanted to order Swoard board, but you ignore my letters. In a result I have ordered a similar custom board at other brand. I hope there will be a good board! The winter will show!
Thanks for pleasant words! It will be pleasant for me to communicate with you here.
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by nils » Monday 13 June 2005, 21:39
I ignored your letters???
strange because i usually answer every single mail!
I must have said we are out of boards, which is the only thing i usually answer when people want to order now! We do have a few boards left in sizes it seems very few people want! I'll update the list asap and publish it again!
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by Vitaly » Tuesday 14 June 2005, 2:45
It was... Only the first letter was with the answer, and three (or four) without it...
Already it's done!
All that is doing for the best!
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by Vitaly » Tuesday 14 June 2005, 19:12
Nils, say please:
Alpine Duret and Swoard, what do they have the general?
And Swoard 168 what have the weight?
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by nils » Tuesday 14 June 2005, 19:45
Vitaly,
I 'm not sure i understand your question ! Can you please formulate it differently?
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by Vitaly » Tuesday 14 June 2005, 20:12
Ok Nils! I'll try...
I know they have the identical geometrical sizes.
Is they are have different wood core and weight?
Or only Duret Alpine have not ATCM?
When have you do first board with ATCM?
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by nils » Wednesday 15 June 2005, 11:16
between the two models, there is indeed differences:
- base quality ( 2000 basic vs 4000 electra)
- wood core quality and design ( poplar vs mixed ash/spruce)
- fiberglass quality ( biax vs full triax)
- ATC Matrix (without or with it)
- core thicknesses are also tuned to our specs (S,M, H) on our boards: three choices of flexes/thickness for the Swoard!
- dampening ( basic vs special rubber dampening)
Basically the cost of production of our board was way higher at the time we allowed them Duret Alpine to be produced. This explains the low price you can now find on those rare models, but also the difference on the snow between them boards too. It was also a way for us of testing the fact that the shape does help, but is only one parameter toward a good EC board.
Hope this answers a few questions
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by Vitaly » Wednesday 15 June 2005, 20:38
Thanks Nils!
It's very pleasant for me to read it. I didn't hope for it already!
It would be possible for pair questions, written above, to answer. But if you don't want, this is your business. So extensive enough answer!
But Duret Alpine have:
Wood core - mixed beech / poplar (not only poplar)
Bi+tri fiber (not only biax)
And you use ash+spruce is it new technologies?
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by nils » Thursday 16 June 2005, 19:32
oops yes the cores are beech poplar, sorry.. I forgot they were different wood dispite the different colors. As for the bi+tri i assume the tri is on the bottom, while the bi is on the top... Cannot remember what they did (maybe was the opposite.
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