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Post by drzone » Wednesday 27 March 2002, 4:54

Call me crazy but I like carving in soft boots. Can you or are you carving the same way on soft (but firm) boot? I am willing to put work into it.

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Post by rilliet » Wednesday 27 March 2002, 8:55

Personally i can't lay down any turn with my freeride board because my feet are a bit too long (45). But Patrice does (he is 43 and has a super wide board). But it looks really bad compared to when he rides with his alpine stuff. Too slow, too little turns, no dynamic... :(

Hardboot is definitely the system to extreme carve. :D

Carve very low.

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Post by DaveS » Monday 8 April 2002, 9:23

Dear Jacques and Patrice,

I’m curious as to what stance angles, width and lean you guys ride on your freeride boards.

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Re: soft boots

Post by fivat » Wednesday 10 April 2002, 16:08

Dear DaveS,

My freeride board:
- overall length: 165 cm
- waist width: 27 cm (!)

My stance angles
- front: 30°
- back: 15°

I have to measure the feet disance again :D , but it's about 50-55 cm.

-Patrice Fivat

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Post by pokkis » Wednesday 10 April 2002, 16:29

I'm also very interested of aggressive softboot carving issue. :lol:

Do you have any clips how you guys carve on softies?

For me it is huge step to switch from hw setup with high angles(TM) to softies with moderate ones. Still practicing and specially heel side is hard one even heel side is easier with hb setup. My setup consists of 170 Eliminator with Clickers and with 43 size boot angles are like 30+. I have found that going to slightly smaller stance (48cm or so) i got my riding slightly better.

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Post by fivat » Thursday 11 April 2002, 16:31

pokkis wrote:Do you have any clips how you guys carve on softies?
Yes, we are working on it, and it will be on the site in the beginning of next season!
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heel side on soft boots

Post by drzone » Sunday 14 April 2002, 7:48

I use a very similar boot angle set up on soft boots. Toe/front side carving is OK, but heel side seems to be a lot more difficult. Any pointer other than what is already in the teaching units?

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Re: heel side on soft boots

Post by fivat » Monday 15 April 2002, 14:22

drzone wrote:I use a very similar boot angle set up on soft boots. Toe/front side carving is OK, but heel side seems to be a lot more difficult. Any pointer other than what is already in the teaching units?
Yes, heel/back side carving with soft boots is critical because:
- the pressure control is less fine on the heels than on the toes
- one can't be strong in soft boots (pressure is much higher with hard boots)
- the small angles imply that the carver has a position somewhat "seated"
- on hard snow when the sot boots touch the slope, one loses the control especially on the heel/back side
- ...

With regard to the feeling I get, I would say that:
- toe/front side carving is great with soft boots (with hard boots too!)
- heel/back side carving is great with hard boots

:arrow: But with regard to the dynamics, the feeling of power and the style, I confirm what Jacques wrote:
rilliet wrote:Hardboot is definitely the system to extreme carve. :D
-Patrice Fivat

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