North Waves are DEAD

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Post by skywalker » Thursday 10 May 2007, 18:15

O.k., let's get a bit more detailled:
Some minutes ago I recieved an Email from Georg Rabenser saying, that rabanser bought the tools of the Northwave boots.
At the moment they are planning the start of production.

So there is hope again :idea:

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Post by ngsam » Thursday 10 May 2007, 18:44

my finger are crossed
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Post by Silber » Thursday 10 May 2007, 18:52

Tom, not to be pessimist, but I have been involved in this situation too many times (last one on April's fool..... I spoke with NW directly in Italy (2 times with the management, once with the guy that sold me his own 950s)..and they always told me the molds had been destroyed (probably to consolidate some losses for balance sheet/fiscal purposes.

Not only, Georg told me the same thing last year in July (that he had the molds....) and I still wear my old NW Nexus...

let's keep our fingers crossed..but from what they told me, production to be worth it should be for a minimum of 5000 pairs...not sure if I wish Georg to get into this business..very risky!

Plus, for as good as they were, now it's 2007... it should be time for DeeLuxe or UPZ to make some serious boots with modern technology!!!
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Re: North Waves are DEAD

Post by Hans » Thursday 10 May 2007, 19:28

Fingers crossed, the Northwave shells :pray: are the best fit for me so far.

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Post by skywalker » Thursday 10 May 2007, 21:29

Francesco,

I totally understand you concerns.
But nevertheless, I do not want to become pessimistic. Do you think, Georg does not have the molds? I think he has. Do you think, it might be not profitable to build these boots? This might be true. But to be honest: If there are molds existing, I think, noone needs 5000pcs to be profitable. Usually calculation in this field is the other way round: how many pieces do I need to regain the molds. ;)

Let's be hopeful!

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Post by Swiss Mike » Thursday 10 May 2007, 22:05

Dude Brilliant News.

Only problem it's hard to type with finger crossed so hard...
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Another problem will be

Post by nils » Friday 11 May 2007, 8:36

If true, another problem to face will be:
- what plastic hardness to choose... yellow is good for racing but too stiff for freecarving...
- what price will be ( the original NW 900-950 where cheaper than the competition, since the "finish" look and details on the boots are pretty "cheap"
- what sizes to build...

i still wonder why the NW factory is telling us for the last 4 years that molds have been destroyed, if someone just bought them thu...

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Post by Silber » Friday 11 May 2007, 9:06

Nils, that's true...especially about the plastic. Georg style is pure racing...and he's not so fond of the EC technique at all!! Thus, I wonder which plastic he would choose...
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Re: Another problem will be

Post by The Blitz » Friday 11 May 2007, 9:39

nils wrote:If true, another problem to face will be:
- what plastic hardness to choose... yellow is good for racing but too stiff for freecarving...
Nils, have you tried .900 (grey) & .950 (yellow) to tell that ? Anybody else ???
Oke, I've bought twice last year and I can say there is a difference in forward flex due to springs (blue vs red).
But for lateral flex, I not sure there is a large difference (but I don't tried .900).
For sure with our feedback (my brother & me), there is an enormous difference in lateral flex between NW's & Head / Deeluxe Suzuka.

Now I'm using Head for freeriding with my swallow tail !!!

:arrow: so in my opinion, if Georg make new boots fore racing, it'll not a problem !!!
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Post by nils » Friday 11 May 2007, 12:41

if he can make both its fine, but if he has to choose it will be numbers of potential sales that will speak..

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Post by x-eff » Sunday 13 May 2007, 12:59

Silly question : who is Georg Rabanser ? Where does he come from ?

I've been on www.rabansersnowboards.com , but I had never heard about him before.
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Post by Alex » Sunday 13 May 2007, 14:26

Georg was a national champion of snowboard (SL & GS) and now He is a snowboard instructor.The last year I attended with Silber a snow-camp organized by Georg, and I can say that He is a very good instructor but the techniques he teaches is different from that we want to achieve!
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Post by Ricci82 » Sunday 13 May 2007, 19:05

x-eff wrote:Silly question : who is Georg Rabanser ? Where does he come from ?

I've been on www.rabansersnowboards.com , but I had never heard about him before.
he cames from south tyrol italy, i thought i saw something in tv about his shop. he makes boards for races and let test them from various people, and the boards seems to be good...

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Post by Schneewurm » Thursday 10 April 2008, 10:26

Who wears this Northwave boots?

O.k. it's not a special thing, to see poeple riding Nortwave boots in capital Switzerland . Most time, I think about 50 % of the days I was out on snow this winter I saw riders with such boot type on raceboards (no race days/locations).

But in this case, this week, I saw a famous person using them for freeriding.

Who think You was the person? (helpsteps follows)
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Post by starikashka » Thursday 10 April 2008, 11:51

Grabner?
i`m learning

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