Best binding for Swoard?

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Best binding for Swoard?

Post by Ironmike » Thursday 18 October 2007, 13:17

Hi ECers!

I'd like to ask the experts here in this forum for their advice.
I ordered a new Swoard (can't wait for it!!! btw)
Which binding should be use or can be used without problems?
I've read in several posts here that people don't like step-in Bindings on wide boards - such as Swoard - because of the missing lateral flex in the binding.
I already own a F2 Intec Titanium step-in (and have of course the intec heels on my boots). Can I use it on the Swoard or would people strongly advise against that binding. I'm new in EC so I think I would NOT feel a difference anyway.

Thx for your help
Mike
Swoard 2D 3rd Gen 175H + F2 Race Titanium + Raichle 423
F2 Silberpfeil 162 + F2 Intec Titanium + Raichle 125

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Re: Best binding for Swoard?

Post by voodoo » Thursday 18 October 2007, 14:16

Ironmike wrote:Hi ECers!

I'd like to ask the experts here in this forum for their advice.
I ordered a new Swoard (can't wait for it!!! btw)
Which binding should be use or can be used without problems?
I've read in several posts here that people don't like step-in Bindings on wide boards - such as Swoard - because of the missing lateral flex in the binding.
I already own a F2 Intec Titanium step-in (and have of course the intec heels on my boots). Can I use it on the Swoard or would people strongly advise against that binding. I'm new in EC so I think I would NOT feel a difference anyway.

Thx for your help
Mike
there is a difference so better to have on best board -- best bindings
boards:Swoard 175 H, Sigi Grabner Speed GS 185
bindings: F2 Race titanium, INTEC TITANFLEX
Boots: Deeluxe Indy+BTS,

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thnx vitaly

Post by nils » Thursday 18 October 2007, 14:20

just a small help:

Wide boards need bigger ability to move lateraly on the board...the intec system is smart and easy, but it locks the boot lateraly because of the U shape of the heel part. This is why we have better results with non intec bindings that are also not too stiff on the board...

We have good results with F2 race titanium which is a good bargain
TD2's are good but need mods ( bails especially) for use on wide boards with lower angles

Nils

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Post by voodoo » Thursday 18 October 2007, 14:24

at the end ... easy way is if you buy F2 bindings, just put it on Swoa and drive
boards:Swoard 175 H, Sigi Grabner Speed GS 185
bindings: F2 Race titanium, INTEC TITANFLEX
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Post by rilliet » Thursday 18 October 2007, 15:01

voodoo wrote:at the end ... easy way is if you buy F2 bindings, just put it on Swoad and drive
... after you have removed the canting in order to have them flat on the board.

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Post by Ironmike » Thursday 18 October 2007, 15:43

Thx to all above...

I'll go for the F2 Race Titanium (no cants/lifts).

But there's still one question left: Does that binding work with intec heels.
Of course they're not needed, but as I have 'em on my boots and will also use 'em on my F2 Silberpfeil with intec binding, is there space enough for the bolts of the intec heels to be free in the race titanium binding? i.e. Can I close the race binding although I have the intec heels?
Swoard 2D 3rd Gen 175H + F2 Race Titanium + Raichle 423
F2 Silberpfeil 162 + F2 Intec Titanium + Raichle 125

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No problems

Post by Hans » Thursday 18 October 2007, 15:48

Ironmike wrote:Thx to all above...

I'll go for the F2 Race Titanium (no cants/lifts).

But there's still one question left: Does that binding work with intec heels.
Of course they're not needed, but as I have 'em on my boots and will also use 'em on my F2 Silberpfeil with intec binding, is there space enough for the bolts of the intec heels to be free in the race titanium binding? i.e. Can I close the race binding although I have the intec heels?
You can left your intec heels where they are if you use standard bails:
under your boots. No problem to use intec heels in standard bindings with bails.

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Post by Simon » Thursday 18 October 2007, 16:25

Hi Mike

yes, the binding works with intec heels, I also did that for a wile. just for fun one day I mounted the original heels and was surprised about the difference. the intec heel is way stiffer than the original and that is quite remarkable, gives you more lateral flex and vibrations are better absorbed. since that I never ever rode with intec heels in the bail binding

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Post by pokkis » Thursday 18 October 2007, 16:35

And one thing which makes also big difference is that IntecHeel is thicker than standard. So you will have small heel lift on both boots and heel lift on front boot is slightly odd.
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Post by Schneewurm » Thursday 18 October 2007, 21:41

@Ironmike
If You are not heavy, You can try to ride with a softer hardboot and a soft F2-Proflex INTEC RS-binding. There is perhaps not so mutch control as with rigid plates, but on flat angle it let's You ride very comfortable. I usualy ride them with my wider boards (from 21.5 cm up to 26 cm width).
And at the last days on icy condition on Austrian Glaciers, I had a lot of fun carving with such a setup on a 26 cm Board, which I get last Year for free in nearly new condition (first serie of NdK MGL, amazing high torsional stiffness for a board from 1997/98, It sounds crazy but there is similiar ore more torsional stiffness, compared to a much stiffer Virus Team Edition and very much more torsional stiffness, then a normal, slight stiffer Virus!).
Gliding on Snowboards,
like Pogo, Kessler, Virus, Hot, Nidecker and others,
from 151 up to 183 cm and 14 to 27.4 cm width,
covering any kind of shapes with
any kind of boots and bindings.

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Post by Ironmike » Friday 19 October 2007, 8:43

Sorry Schneewurm!

I weigh about 93kg. I assume this is not what you meant with "not heavy" right? So this won't work
Swoard 2D 3rd Gen 175H + F2 Race Titanium + Raichle 423
F2 Silberpfeil 162 + F2 Intec Titanium + Raichle 125

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