Lenght and stiffness of Swoard
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- Mattias112
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Lenght and stiffness of Swoard
Hi!
I just sold my 168 M because I thought it was to soft and turned to tight for my EC style. I must admitt that it was perfect to learn how to EC, but once learned the board simply is to soft and turn to tight, especially if there is good grip in the snow.
I am 170 cm and my weight is 67 kg, so according to the recommendations it should be great.
Are there any more out there that feels the same?
And what do the "Swoard team" suggest?
/Matt
I just sold my 168 M because I thought it was to soft and turned to tight for my EC style. I must admitt that it was perfect to learn how to EC, but once learned the board simply is to soft and turn to tight, especially if there is good grip in the snow.
I am 170 cm and my weight is 67 kg, so according to the recommendations it should be great.
Are there any more out there that feels the same?
And what do the "Swoard team" suggest?
/Matt
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Hi Mattias
My weight is 75 kg (limit between M and H), and I own a 168H (3D) I feel perfect for usual carving and also EC on good conditions.
During ECS 06, I tried also a 168M 2D and I feel it better for EC on steep icy slopes, because the softer flex helps to finish the turn with moderate speed. But I feel it too soft for usual carving especially in soft snow because the smaller radius cause more loss of speed.
Being lighter than me, M flex should be good, except if you like high speed carving and if you ride on soft snow. Was the board a 2D or 3D ?
My weight is 75 kg (limit between M and H), and I own a 168H (3D) I feel perfect for usual carving and also EC on good conditions.
During ECS 06, I tried also a 168M 2D and I feel it better for EC on steep icy slopes, because the softer flex helps to finish the turn with moderate speed. But I feel it too soft for usual carving especially in soft snow because the smaller radius cause more loss of speed.
Being lighter than me, M flex should be good, except if you like high speed carving and if you ride on soft snow. Was the board a 2D or 3D ?
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- Mattias112
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For allround carving the 168M (the 2D model) was really good, in fact probably the best board I´ve tried. For EC I only felt comfortable when the conditions where rather hard but not icy. In icy conditions the, in my opinion, short raduis and/or the softness of the board made it turn to tight which meant loss of grip in the tail=sliding instead of carving.
In soft conditions I either slid out or I was overriding the nose of the board and was thrown "over the handlebars".
Other boards that i´ve tried with longer raduis and a little more stiffnes ie F2 speedsterRS177(longer radius but not much stiffer), Afterburner( Not much longer radius, 13 M, but really stiff). These boards does not have these problems. And, yes I have to work harder on these boards and they are a bit to narrow and they are not nearly as good for allround carving... But for EC they actually work
Any ideas?
In soft conditions I either slid out or I was overriding the nose of the board and was thrown "over the handlebars".
Other boards that i´ve tried with longer raduis and a little more stiffnes ie F2 speedsterRS177(longer radius but not much stiffer), Afterburner( Not much longer radius, 13 M, but really stiff). These boards does not have these problems. And, yes I have to work harder on these boards and they are a bit to narrow and they are not nearly as good for allround carving... But for EC they actually work
Any ideas?
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168H, or 175M
- Mattias112
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- Mattias112
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Must ride more
After looking at movieclips of THE extremecarving guys and myself I think I need more practice I realize that I need a bit more speed so perhaps a 168 M will feel better as I am getting better...
What board do Jaques and Patrice ride??
What board do Jaques and Patrice ride??
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Re: Must ride more
I'm riding 168H, and sometimes 168M when the snow is very hard or icy.Mattias112 wrote:What board do Jaques and Patrice ride??
Jacques is riding 175M.
Patrice Fivat
Hi Matt.
I'm almost exactly your size and weight (in fact, I'm a very little bit taller and heavier, at least in winter) and I did some runs with the 168M. I think it's a bit soft for aggressive carving, especially it doesn't like to be ridden with too much pressure on it's nose. So switching to SWOARD from my Virus, I need to cool down a bit.
But if I ride the 168M like recommendet by the SWOARD Team, it works perfectly fine. IMHO it's important to ride it with your weight centered over the board, best with some prerotation. To be honest, I can't imagine, that your are too strong / too heavy for this board. I have to admit, that there might be some tolerance in each board's stiffness, but anyways I never had that kind of problems with various SWOARD 168M.
Best regards
skywalker
I'm almost exactly your size and weight (in fact, I'm a very little bit taller and heavier, at least in winter) and I did some runs with the 168M. I think it's a bit soft for aggressive carving, especially it doesn't like to be ridden with too much pressure on it's nose. So switching to SWOARD from my Virus, I need to cool down a bit.
But if I ride the 168M like recommendet by the SWOARD Team, it works perfectly fine. IMHO it's important to ride it with your weight centered over the board, best with some prerotation. To be honest, I can't imagine, that your are too strong / too heavy for this board. I have to admit, that there might be some tolerance in each board's stiffness, but anyways I never had that kind of problems with various SWOARD 168M.
Best regards
skywalker
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- Mattias112
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Hi!
I guess I´m used to a lot stiffer and longer boards(as you can see what board I own...) so I have adjusted my technic accordingly... But I only think the boad is to soft when the snow has great grip, on ice its really good. I will most certainly buy a 175M or 168H insted of my 168M. I like long turns so I get a long nice contact with the snow
Which of those boards would all of you think will fit my style best??
I guess I´m used to a lot stiffer and longer boards(as you can see what board I own...) so I have adjusted my technic accordingly... But I only think the boad is to soft when the snow has great grip, on ice its really good. I will most certainly buy a 175M or 168H insted of my 168M. I like long turns so I get a long nice contact with the snow
Which of those boards would all of you think will fit my style best??
RAD Black, Diamond MW, Blackburn...