Spring carving photos.

[luomu]

As said, I have the same angles for both bindings. But theoretically, if Fuego-test allows, you could result in 45 F / 50 R angles
Most likely the differences won't be that dramatic though.
I guess this is the new school

[Abrax]

A new school, but seems resonable...

I was questioning myself why not to set the same angles on both boots, just in the beginning of this winter...

I'll definately give it a try.

-> On the second photo the fabulous ACSS can be seen!!!

[crack676]

@luomu: Very nice pictures! Coiler seems to work pretty fine for you!

Greatings from Team Coiler Switzerland

BTW: Your Trans Bastard is still in use sometimes!

[H2O]

As said, I have the same angles for both bindings. But theoretically, if Fuego-test allows, you could result in 45 F / 50 R angles
Most likely the differences won't be that dramatic though.
I guess this is the new school

Thank you very much! I'll try!

[pokkis]

I would not go, atleast straight awy, to angles where you have less angle in front than on rear. Might be best to try first with equal angles and check how that feels on your knees. Due body mechanics with different people are really different.
Another point to remember is that due most bindings are quite loose and allow boot turn there several degrees, even you have setup bindings to this kind "duck" stance boots are not in "duck" position.
Additionally, even i can not make EC-turns according Book, i would say that "duck" stance or will certainly limit your movements when going down, and/or really twist yor knees

[H2O]

I would not go, atleast straight awy, to angles where you have less angle in front than on rear. Might be best to try first with equal angles and check how that feels on your knees. Due body mechanics with different people are really different.
Another point to remember is that due most bindings are quite loose and allow boot turn there several degrees, even you have setup bindings to this kind "duck" stance boots are not in "duck" position.
Additionally, even i can not make EC-turns according Book, i would say that "duck" stance or will certainly limit your movements when going down, and/or really twist yor knees

Pokkis, ok I'll consider!
For me should be a really radical change, as now I am riding with a surf (Pureboarding) stance with 37° rear (with Burton 7° Unicant-cant/lift) and 54° front; this setting gives to me a lot of balance and at the same time quickness, also in freeride with long swallowtails.

[Rey]

Hi, Luomu !
Really nice pictures ! You still strongly progressing! Bravo!

Actually, a said, that angle of front and back bindings can be same or little bit «/ \» but not more then 3 degrees, because measurement of angle by bindings is not correct – there are lot of backlash. Yes, my front angle is less then back, BUT it is not recommendation!, because my feet size is 46 (US 13) , that is why for me is not big difference 2 degrees les then back one. You need to find a balance between the maximum approach shoe to edge (if snow is dance, icy, then the shoes can look out for the edge) and riding comfort.
Of course it is better if the front is more than the rear, is a natural and convenient!
Pokkis is right! each of us has different physiological data, and it is useless to adjust to the strange settings. Need to search your own!

[evGen]

Hi, Luomu !
Really nice pictures ! You still strongly progressing! Bravo!

Actually, a said, that angle of front and back bindings can be same or little bit «/ \» but not more then 3 degrees, because measurement of angle by bindings is not correct – there are lot of backlash. Yes, my front angle is less then back, BUT it is not recommendation!, because my feet size is 46 (US 13) , that is why for me is not big difference 2 degrees les then back one. You need to find a balance between the maximum approach shoe to edge (if snow is dance, icy, then the shoes can look out for the edge) and riding comfort.
Of course it is better if the front is more than the rear, is a natural and convenient!
Pokkis is right! each of us has different physiological data, and it is useless to adjust to the strange settings. Need to search your own!

+1

[H2O]

Hi, Luomu !
Really nice pictures ! You still strongly progressing! Bravo!

Actually, a said, that angle of front and back bindings can be same or little bit «/ \» but not more then 3 degrees, because measurement of angle by bindings is not correct – there are lot of backlash. Yes, my front angle is less then back, BUT it is not recommendation!, because my feet size is 46 (US 13) , that is why for me is not big difference 2 degrees les then back one. You need to find a balance between the maximum approach shoe to edge (if snow is dance, icy, then the shoes can look out for the edge) and riding comfort.
Of course it is better if the front is more than the rear, is a natural and convenient!
Pokkis is right! each of us has different physiological data, and it is useless to adjust to the strange settings. Need to search your own!

+2

[luomu]

Thanks for the compliments, prophets of the east There's finally some (ok a lot) of progress on the back side turn after zinal. Great tips from you guys and from secretly peaking from the cups of Vin Chaude to what EvGen was demonstrating on the lift station have been a significant help to the right directiion I suppose..

I would not go for a "reverse duck" either, it feels odd even if you test it just standing on the floor. But then again, for me the same-same (even angles) seems just fine. The point I was also trying to make with this example was indeed questioning the facts that you need to have just spesific angles and trying out for yourself. Pokkis seemed to get the point out in an easier to understand way

[H2O]

So, EC setting seems to be an example of total symmetry :
- set-back: 0
- board's shape and flex: symmetrical
- bindings: flat (centered stance)
- boots with the same calf canting
- and now, same angles!

[Hans]

Thanks for the compliments, prophets of the east There's finally some (ok a lot) of progress on the back side turn after zinal. Great tips from you guys and from secretly peaking from the cups of Vin Chaude to what EvGen was demonstrating on the lift station have been a significant help to the right directiion I suppose..

Hmm I have some lack in backsiderotation, can you enlighten me with some tips you have gotten?

[luomu]

Hi Hans!
Since I'm no prophet nor have the Instructor jacket to be preaching for the masses, I just sent you a short PM of the observations we have made this season that have helped me improve.

[H2O]

of the observations we have made this season that have helped me improve.

Luomu, I am really interested too!

[tommaso2k]

luomu,
can you please inform me as well how you improved your technique - either reply her to make it visible or copy me a PM.
THanks in advance.

Regards
Tom