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Post by licarver » Monday 7 March 2011, 22:21

I have tested ACSS for Deeluxe T 325 in the snow,simlpy fantastic;
now the boot is a slipper :lol:


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Post by Busyboy » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 15:37

How and where can I order this system?
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Post by Abrax » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 15:46

Hi there!

I'm just preparing a new set for the 2012 season. I need one week more and I will officially announce 2012 model :-)
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Post by Busyboy » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 16:08

Great!
can't wait!!!!! :clap: :angel2: :clap2: :clap3: :pray2: :tongue:
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Re: ACSS - Advanced Carving Spring System for Deeluxe

Post by Hans » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 16:17

Abrax wrote:Hi there!

I'm just preparing a new set for the 2012 season. I need one week more and I will officially announce 2012 model :-)
Curious, what could be better??? Tougher materials?? I am happy with the one I have, but if you have a better one :) , put me in line

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Post by Abrax » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 16:30

Hi Hans,

Glad You are happy with 2011 model :-)

The aluminum parts will be galvanized and colored... The springs should become white, the rest orange/red... :-)
But the price will rise a bit up to as low as 60 eur.
The standard 2011 model will be still available in the normal price -> 55eur.

The look will obviously increase and the waterproofness will also gain +1 in statistics. :)

But I'm still working on it...
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Post by Hans » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 16:35

Sounds excellent :clap2: :clap2: Just put me in line for one.

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Post by Abrax » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 16:44

Haha :-)

You are becoming ACSS addicted You know? :-)

With a pleasure, You are on the list :-)
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Re: ACSS - Advanced Carving Spring System for Deeluxe

Post by Transistor Rhythm » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 16:56

So why is the stem bent for this ACSS and not for the Head ACSS? I notice my BTS also jamming a bit to the boot on my Indy's.
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Re: ACSS - Advanced Carving Spring System for Deeluxe

Post by Abrax » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 17:20

The construction of Arnaud ACSS is good and was always like this. Nothing has changed, because no change was really needed. Look, even now, with the UPZ hardshells the system stayed the same. Unfortunately I've bought INDY's not Heads and Arnauds ACSS was not the one to work with Deeluxe's hardshells because of their asymmetric construction. Finally much more sophisticated system was needed. The BTS which was on the market did not really fulfill the gap, because it's straight rod seemed to be locking the spring.
So I've designed, tested and produced ACSS for Deeluxe from scratch with hard discussion with Arnaud during whole designing and testing period. It is better than BTS, well constructed having leg motorics in mind and perfectly suits all the Deeluxe and Raichle hardshells.

The name Advanced Carving Spring System is the same for both, because we both are aiming in giving You the feel of Northwave's in Head's, UPS, UPZ, Blax, Deeluxe or Raichle boots.

Yes, the system usually can be addapted to any hardshell construction, but sometimes it needs Your boots to be send to my or Arnaud's workshop.
And another truth is that I do Raichle/Deeluxe and Arnaud makes all the other brands in which there is no need for such advanced construction as mine.

I hope You will understand...
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Post by leeho730 » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 18:04

I recon the only prob with Deeluxe ACSS is that the flex is not customizable... with BTS you can adjust toeside flex by using different springs and also adding tension...

But then again, how many people do really need such customizations?
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Post by Hans » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 18:13

leeho730 wrote:I recon the only prob with Deeluxe ACSS is that the flex is not customizable... with BTS you can adjust toeside flex by using different springs and also adding tension...

But then again, how many people do really need such customizations?
Is also possible with the ACSS system. Is almost the same system as the Bomber but more suitable and lighter in weight :bravo:

I am happy with the ACSS and am thinking of selling my Bomber BTS (on second pair of hardboots) when the new ACSS is coming out.

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Re: ACSS - Advanced Carving Spring System for Deeluxe

Post by Abrax » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 18:26

leeho, I did not say that customisation is not possible... What I did say is that it is not available yet...

I did sell about 30 sets and not even one was discussed that there is a need for any stiffer or weaker springs...
Arnaudhas sold much more and he says, that he has 3 sets of springs and finally everyone goes with the softest ones... So I don't feel the need to go with any more than a standard spring...

Of corse it feels weird when You first put the boots on Your legs... It's weird feeling to have the same hardshells now that soft... But once on the snow You discover that no hard spring is really needed.

Anyway, if You trully need any harder spring, please let me know, I will send You a set...
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Re: ACSS - Advanced Carving Spring System for Deeluxe

Post by Arnaud » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 20:06

transistor rythm wrote:So why is the stem bent for this ACSS and not for the Head ACSS?
In an old post in the french section I've made the comparizon between Head and Deeluxe boots. The main difference that justify the need of a bended rod is the position of the pivot axis of the boots. I'll try to find this old post ... (Edit : not found, I add the picture in this post)

As you can see on the drawing, on Raichle / Deeluxe boots, the bottom pin used to fix the ACSS is lower than the ankle pivot while on head (or UPZ) the pin is a little bit over the pivot.
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When the boot flexes forward, the X dimension increase a lot on Deeluxe, less on Head boots. The bended rod is better to follow the natural movement of the boot.
Head design helps the rod to remains parallel to the shell, and an ovalized hole in the L-shaped bracket is enough to balance the X difference
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Re: ACSS - Advanced Carving Spring System for Deeluxe

Post by Abrax » Wednesday 21 September 2011, 21:20

If the design has stayed the same, the rod hole in deeluxe, would have the oval hole measuring about 6,5x23mm minimum, which would be far too much to let it work this way.

So actually there is a barrel which follows the bent rod while moving forward, which is doing this part of the job. A bit complicated, but the complication of the system is not the most important thing if it works good. The rod is bent, because, we like the minimum overhang don't we? :-) This is definitely the least overhanging custom spring system ever made...

On the other hand, there is no need for this kind of machinery in the Head shells...

BTW: The 1st generation of the ACSS for Deeluxe system was just as straight as BTS! (And the back of my snowboard pants were really badly damaged after just one day...
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