He did it!

[rilliet]

Nils sent us this photo (he is too humble to put it by himself on the forum...)
So, half a season (10 days) training was enough to him to be a master in frontside laid turns.

Next year, he is going to tackle the backside laid turn
Sure that at the end of the next season we will get an extremecarving video from him.

Jacques

[rcrobar]

Hi

Next year, he is going to tackle the backside laid turn.

Watching the e-carve videos leads me to believe that the heel side (backside) e-carve “STYLE” turn is something that really separates all previous turns; particularly the upper body “twisting” or “pulling” motion while very low.

When teaching guys like Nils, who is obviously a very good rider, the backside e-carve “style” turn do you have any teaching steps or progressions that will help us all along?

Perhaps drills that might help us all along on the backside edge.

Can you point out common “pitfalls” or “mistakes” that a good and very experienced rider, like Nils, will often encounter.

Seeing the pictures and watching the videos keeps the stoke alive, even in the middle of summer.

Thanks
Rob

[nils]

well thnx rob for comment am just average rider that likes involvement i guess...
As for progression , the hard part was learning to forget the counter rotation.. it was deep engraved in my style from all those years.. and the best tip above all was to keep arms along body.. its a permanent thought at first, but leads to rotation turns, cos without arms there is only that solution to initiate the turn.. You can see it really good on the teaching videos ( first ones)...I haven't noticed much difference between front and backside technique, its just that the back is always harder because of physical limitations i guess..the big secret in both lies in the "reach low before the board turns, then push board away.. understanding this is leading to progression curve.. my previus technique was laying when the turn was 50% done thus getting huge G's in the last 50% , making them hard to lay flat.. the Ecarve turn is physically demanding, but i find it less hard on the legs when it comes to resisting G's... the pressure is balanced on all the turn, which makes the last part of the turn almost pressure less..

Hope this gives hints, its what i feel when i try it... concentrate on keeping arms close to sides ( put velcro on hips, and on sleeves hehe )

Nils

[rilliet]

I think Nils is absolutely right.

First: correct rotation.
Second: correct turn entry.

Backside turn: a bit more difficult because the rider don't see the slope very well at the begining of the turn and because he can use only one hand to touch the snow.

But Patrice will tell you that the backside turn is the easiest one!

Jacques

[rcrobar]

Hi All

Thanks for the tips.

The French Open is on TV right now, the sun is shining, the kids are napping, it's Saturday ... "Life is Good." Still kinda wish I could get a few runs in on the snowboard right now .. guess it's good to be excited about the future.

Rob

[yyzcanuck]

I think it's interesting to note that in the picture above, snow is only being sprayed from the tip & tail. It appears that only two contact points are really supporting the rider. From this, I can only surmise that the board is not being decambered by the rider (thus, low G force).
I think Nils' description of how to enter the turn is probably the 'missing link' that some riders might need to learn your riding technique/style. I know from my personal experience, that is not how I initiate a turn. I'll give it a try...

[audacium]

Hello Jacques and Patrice,


when you are teaching Nils, don't you want to teach me, too ?
I'll be happy to come to Switzerland or France this for...


Greetings, Eduard.

[rilliet]

Yes, we would like to teach extreme carving to all of you!
But for that, we need more lifes than just the one we got...

This site is the solution to this problem.
And the forum allows you personal questions.

If, after having read carefully all the instructions and trained hard, you think you can't solve the problems by yourself, why don't you send us a (short: less than 500 kB) movie? We could comment it on the forum sothat every body could take advantage of it.

Jacques

[neil_swingler]

Nils,

did you use a narrow GS board?

-- Neil

[nils]

i think the waist is 19cm, and i have large feet with SB121 (which are longer than modern boots). It took me 3-4 attemps on the slope before i could adjust my feet on the board without having the boots draggind too much.
The first attemps i couldn't even carve backside, my back shoe would touch and make me slip on butt..

Needless to say, i didn't try backside EC on that board...

Nils