beginner snow-hard....suggestion needed...

Post by **raffaella150** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 10:35

better if i make shorter the topics....

how make better my style 'cause the total missing of teachers where i go to ski? very small place...
i am an ex-skier-old-style (i started at 4 ...34 years ago) how can this help?
on the straight i always fall because the board glean (i hope is the correct term) and oblige me to curve for ride a small street (translated i cannot slip soft and light as with the ski) what can i do?
how to regulate the bindings: inclination and bending...race board 1,60, me 1,60 x 61kg, beginner, ex advanced skier, boots raichle 41, bindings step-in raichle, i don't remember the brand of the board, training bodybuilding hard from 20years.

thanx to everybody and sorry for the bad english.

Post by **kurtsk8** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 11:01

Welcome

This is the English section, You should translate in english

Post by **Transistor Rhythm** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 11:45

Sideslipping should be possible on any snowboard. But I did notice it was more difficult to ride just a straight line on a typical slalom board because they are less wide, stiffer and more grippy. This results in more nervous behaviour when riding the board flat. A small bump on the slope can bump your board around and cause it to catch an edge on the wrong side. Carving snowboards are designed to catch an edge with the smallest amount of effort.

There is no other option than always make at least a very slight sliding turn when you have to travel in a straight line and encounter some lumps. In other words, always ride one edge, not the middle.

A wider board will have better characteristics for such slopes, at a cost.

Some more questions to you:

What board do you ride? How long and wide? Slalom board or freestyle or...?
Is it possible to upload a movie of your riding to YouTube? It is hard to give tips if we can't see what you do

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En wat bedoel je nou met 'board glean?

Post by **raffaella150** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 17:14

Transistor Rhythm wrote:En wat bedoel je nou met 'board glean?

sorry ik ben italiaans en sommige technische woorden ken ik niet...ook in het engels en in het woordenboek stond geen "impuntarsi"....

surf je van veel jaren?

Post by **RicHard** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 17:26

Going straight ("flat"!) on a board is more difficult.
It's always better to be on the edge, even just a little bit that allows you to go ALMOST straight but allows you to be balanced, avoiding that any "bump" can move suddenly your board that can then "impuntarsi"

So... don't worry: riding flat is difficult even for the most advanced riders...
Much easier to carve "strongly" than riding flat.

Post by **raffaella150** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 18:12

oki, so ...i saw that you are from italy, how can i make better my style? i'm alone because where i go to ski there are not teachers for hard...

Post by **RicHard** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 18:36

raffaella150 wrote:oki, so ...i saw that you are from italy, how can i make better my style? i'm alone because where i go to ski there are not teachers for hard...

There are not so many choices:
- you can go to a ski-resort where there are instructors
- you can hope to find in your resort an hadrbooter better than you that can teach you something (but if he's not an instructor, the risk to learn something wrong is very high!)
- you can read a lot of things on the internet trying to test some tips and tricks you read about... the best things (in your position) would be to have someone that can film you and, then, you could post a video here in order to have some opinions about.

The best chance is anyway to have an instructor (obvious but... I have to tell it).

Post by **raffaella150** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 18:41

go to search 2bfitnessalassio on youtube and you can find me the last year in monesi...i did only 4 lessons in prato nevoso but there were too many people there and it was quite impossible to learn something...
after i tried by myself remembering what the teachers told, but it's really not easy...
now i go home...i will read your answer saturday.
happy new year! and thanks

Post by **RicHard** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 18:52

Well... watching that video, I can say a couple of things as first:
good that you don't "counter-rotate" (you don't rotate at all). You are saving yourself from a very common error. Good to see that you don't do it.

Your legs are too stiff. Absolutely "no bending".

The mai suggestion would be to go on "almost flat" slopes. The one in the first video is too steep to test some technique tips at your level.
The most common mistake we all can do is to think that, if we can go down on a red slope with a bad technique, we can improve ourself on that slope.
Error! Almost everybody can go down on a black slope after few hours of snowboarding. It depends on HOW you go down. Being always on the same edge is a very easy way to go down even on a black slope.
So... even a learner can go down on a black slope but... try to improve yourself on that slope and you will find the limits.

Do your test on the blue slopes. You are not bad: you have just to improve "security feeling" and to learn how to influence more the board (now the board is just carrying you, you just change edge).

Anyway... you have the right base to work on and... this is a luck: many people has got very bad postures mistake that are very hard to remove before improving.

Enjoy the begininning of the new year!

P.s.: the video description are in italian language... don't you speak italian? Where are you based?

Post by **István** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 19:14

Completely agree with Richard.

Go to a blue slope and try to feel the edge and the radius of the board. Push the edges by doing some push and pull with your legs and feel what is happening. Try to feel how the board reacts to the push.

Flex your legs much more (go deeper) and also try to look where you want to go (this is a very basic drill to develop rotation). Without flexing you cannot push the edge and you cannot absorb the small unevennesses of the slope.

Then do this all over again until you can carve down a blue slope without ANY skidding.

Happy New Carving Year!

Post by **kurtsk8** » Thursday 31 December 2009, 19:37

You could see in the italian section there is a list of Italian istructor

See here

Censimento maestri hard

Post by **raffaella150** » Monday 4 January 2010, 13:45

i'm italian... images/smiles/icon_sad.gif ...but not so proud to be....

every time i surf i try to repeat mechanically all what the teacher told me images/smiles/rules.gif for that i show a very "hard posture" ,,,i'm concentrated to keep the rotation of the chest... images/smiles/eusa_doh.gif and to check perfectly the track.
the strange thing is that i fear the speed on this board but not with the ski.
i have an experience of 34years on skiing and absolutely i don't go slow images/smiles/evil.gif, i can control them in every occasion and often i risk also more than necessary images/smiles/bravo.gif but with the raceboard it's different, i could only one time race the curve in a very good position, i was really surprised and excited images/smiles/badgrin.gifabout the power of the board...maybe i only need time to get used to this new speed... images/smiles/huh.gif
i have also to say that i'm not anymore a little girl, i learned ski in a period of my life without survivor instinct and i'm still so but only with the ski, i started with the board at 34years old and maybe is for that, a fear to get hurt... images/smiles/eusa_silenced.gif
can be that or it's only question of time? images/smiles/huh.gif
i try to find a teacher in this forum because where i go to surf there are only ski-teachers... images/smiles/alien.gifhttps://www.extr ... g_eyes.gif

Post by **RicHard** » Monday 4 January 2010, 14:44

raffaella150 wrote:i'm italian... images/smiles/icon_sad.gif ...but not so proud to be....

Obvious questions:
- why aren't you proud of being italian?
- why are you writing ONLY in the international forum when you can do it even in the italian one (improving your chance to have answers)?

raffaella150 wrote:every time i surf i try to repeat mechanically all what the teacher told me images/smiles/rules.gif for that i show a very "hard posture" ,,,i'm concentrated to keep the rotation of the chest... images/smiles/eusa_doh.gif and to check perfectly the track.
the strange thing is that i fear the speed on this board but not with the ski.
i have an experience of 34years on skiing and absolutely i don't go slow images/smiles/evil.gif, i can control them in every occasion and often i risk also more than necessary images/smiles/bravo.gif but with the raceboard it's different, i could only one time race the curve in a very good position, i was really surprised and excited images/smiles/badgrin.gifabout the power of the board...maybe i only need time to get used to this new speed... images/smiles/huh.gif
i have also to say that i'm not anymore a little girl, i learned ski in a period of my life without survivor instinct and i'm still so but only with the ski, i started with the board at 34years old and maybe is for that, a fear to get hurt... images/smiles/eusa_silenced.gif
can be that or it's only question of time?

I should see how you ski: being in control doesn't mean that your ski skill/ style is good. I could be in control even going fast without carving.
Or I could be in control just on easy slopes.
So, thinking that "being in control" means a lot of things, I can say to you that even on skis there is a certain speed that you cannot go over, if you want to carve a turn (physics). That's what make me doubt about your statement concerning skis: "i don't go slow..., i can control them in every occasion" and then "often i risk also more than necessary". The second statement is in contrast with the previous one.

Anyway... thing remain the same of before: you cannot train yourself on a red or black slope if you are not very good on blue ones.
From what I can see in the video, you are at a level that allow you to get the best improvements on a blue slope.
This doesn't mean that you can't go on a black one controlling speed sliding, eh?! This mean that, if you want to control speed carving on the edge withoud skidding on a red slope, you are not able to do it because you still have so many things to think about while carving and... on the red and black slope... you don't have time to think!

So... take a blue slope and... go there... try... train yourself... ask someone to film a video... and go on.
Furthermore, snowboard has got only one edge: it's normal that you find more difficult to carve on a snowboard than doing it on the skis...

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On the alps there's plenty of snowboarding instructors...
Try to choose destination even concerning presence of instructors, if you can.

Post by **raffaella150** » Monday 4 January 2010, 15:11

I'm not proud to be Italian because i lived/worked 2 years in Holland and i saw HOW Italians really ARE NOT.
i HAD to come back for a weather-problem-depression but i had to go to France and not to Italy.
i saw the rest of the differences and now i would like to escape again....but i can't.
i don't write in Italian because...i just speak Italian, i don't need training in.

quite, i don't go on black slope with the board...when i say that i have a long experience on ski means that i can choose the best place for my preparation.

yes i have a good style on ski and for me risk "more than necessary" means "do sometime something that your survivor instinct disapprove"

i will try more and more when there will be the snow.

thanks