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Now, tuning Head Stratos Pro with BTS??

Post by simima » Thursday 20 March 2008, 12:00

Hi all

I found a store which had both the Stratos Pro and the Deeluxe 700 (and that is extremely rare in Switzerland!). I tried them both, and ended up with the Stratos (I found the 700 totally uncomfortable and - honestly - ugly).

Now the other problem is that for the Deeluxe, the BTS system exists, which I find looks very good. From what I read in the forum, nothing really comparable exists for the Stratos.
(Well, I saw many images where the Stratos gets massacrated in various ways, but I'm a bit reluctant in drilling, cutting, etc. my new boots....).

So:
- Does the Stratos need modification for EC?
- Does the BTS fit to the Stratos (Bomber says no, no, no)?

Thanks everybody...

-Simon

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Post by Freecarver » Thursday 20 March 2008, 12:48

Here's what are you looking for,with little bit of search you find tons of staff.

http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/s ... tratos+bts

Even videos of how you do it.






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Post by raphael » Thursday 20 March 2008, 13:10

Arnaud's ACSS seems to be a far better system.
On the photo we can see BTS does overhang.
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Euh?

Post by simima » Thursday 20 March 2008, 13:48

raphael wrote:Arnaud's ACSS seems to be a far better system.
On the photo we can see BTS does overhang.
Euh... c je ne vois pas de photo...? Est-ce que le liens est correcte?

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Re: Euh?

Post by raphael » Thursday 20 March 2008, 14:46

simima wrote:
raphael wrote:Arnaud's ACSS seems to be a far better system.
On the photo we can see BTS does overhang.
Euh... c je ne vois pas de photo...? Est-ce que le liens est correcte?
Oops corrected:
ACSS > viewtopic.php?t=1034&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

The (long) thread is full of infos, ideas and feedback.
... All in french, sorry for thoose who can't read it.

There's also a pdf with main infos and pics in english:
http://carvingspot.free.fr/download/montage_ACSS_en.pdf


I think the system and tuning have been enhanced many times so you should ask for final advices directly on the thread.



Here is the last version of the tuning instructions:
Arnaud wrote:
swiss mike wrote:Donc quelles sont les modifs à faire
En résumé, si on pars de chaussures "stock"
En faisant sauter le rivet, la découpe est plus facile.
- découpe et ponçage pour réduire l'épaisseur de la coque dans la zone de frottement avec la tige
- poncer la languette pour réduire l'épaisseur et augmenter sa souplesse
- intercaler la rondelle plastique au remontage et rondelle métal sous la boucle de coup de pied
- monter l'ACSS

C'est tout et ça donne des pompes au poil.

A noter que sur les modèles récents (noires) l'agrandissement du trou oblong n'est plus nécessaire, car il a été agrandi d'origine

@ Bojan
Please, wait a moment, I will edit the previous post to add an english translation.
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Post by ngsam » Thursday 20 March 2008, 16:00

+ 1 ACSS made by Arnaud
SWOARD
EXTREMECARVER GEN 1 161 S + 161M
EXTREMECARVER GEN 3 161 M
DUAL 158
HEAD STRATOS PRO sont trop belle et font trop pas mal aux pieds
F2 RACE TITANIUM/

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Ouch...

Post by simima » Thursday 20 March 2008, 16:15

... that looks like modifying A LOT 8O 8O 8O

Not sure if I would make that undertaking. For the time, I leave the boot like it is :roll:

-Simon

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Re: Ouch...

Post by raphael » Thursday 20 March 2008, 20:14

simima wrote:... that looks like modifying A LOT 8O 8O 8O
It's needed.
None of the commercially available boots work correctly without tuning.
This is supposed to be the best tuning for the Head at this time. It's not even that much. :P
Roughly the same is needed on the Raichle/Deeluxe ... for a little less good result.
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Re: Ouch...

Post by eaglefly » Thursday 20 March 2008, 20:34

simima wrote:... that looks like modifying A LOT 8O 8O 8O
Not sure if I would make that undertaking. For the time, I leave the boot like it is :roll:
-Simon
In the end, not such a big deal..
I was afraid and lazy to do it because it looked like modifying a lot, but actually that's fine (I even did it myself, and i'm a girl :D ) and the difference while riding is worth the change :wink:
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Does anybody have the original springs or similar for me?

Post by simima » Thursday 20 March 2008, 20:37

Hi all

Thanks for your replies...

... but before modifying my brand new Stratos, I would like to try something else, namely adding a spring BELOW the original mechanism.

But for this, I need the same springs as installed, or similar springs in diameter (both inside and outside).

Does anybody still have the original springs to give away or does anybody know where to get the same or similar springs?

Thanks for your help!

Cheers

Simon

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tts

Post by tobsinger » Thursday 20 March 2008, 20:40

i tuned my head stratos in a way without drilling.

see here on page 19 of the folowing thread:

viewtopic.php?t=1034&start=270

it works great!
however i also cut out the backside flaps on the inside of the shoe as arnaud showed earlier in the same thread. this makes the boot much more flexible.
in the beginning i wanted to have the bracket that holds the spring lasercut in a bigger number. but know since my home-made protoype works, I'm kind of lazy. maybe if we are a couple of stratos owners who are interested, i can have them lasercut. pic follows.
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Can you make some of those for me?

Post by simima » Thursday 20 March 2008, 20:49

Oh, that looks very good!!

Did I understand right that these parts are new ones, not the original ones, but bent?

If they're new, can you make some of those for me?

And where do you have the springs from?

-Simon

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Post by tobsinger » Friday 21 March 2008, 14:51

yes i made new brackets and took the old ones out. problem with the old parts is that the spring travel is not long enough even if you would change the springs.

if you want i can make you a pair. maybe we should ask a few more people and we can have them lasercut out of stainless steel.

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Great, thanks!

Post by simima » Friday 21 March 2008, 16:40

tobsinger

Thanks for the pictures and for making me two. Sent you a PM with the address details.

Yes, in fact, I will try to change the springs first and add one below for backside... we'll see, but probably, as you say, there's not enough travel (about 2cm total space, giving around 1 cm travel with the softer springs).

-Simon

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