Deeluxe boot tuning (SAB----->MAB)

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Deeluxe boot tuning (SAB----->MAB)

Post by Marko » Monday 8 October 2007, 20:17

Hello!

I decided to manufacture my own SAB (Simon's Acceleration Box) called MAB (Marko`s Acceleration Box)

I found all the informations on the following link viewtopic.php?t=1822

I get the springs from
http://www.hennlich.at/kg/f_federntechnik/index.htm.

First I will try with softer and longer spring, if it won`t be OK I have also some stronger and shorter springs.

6 X 8 X 89 R=21,7 N/mm (HL 16 x 89) Forward
16 X 8 X 76 R=25,7 N/mm (HL 16 x 76)

12,5 X 6,3 X 25 R=30 N/mm (S 13 x 25) Backward

Bottom par is done, when I get the main part you will get more pics with installed MAB on the boot.

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Post by Marko » Saturday 13 October 2007, 19:57

Main part...

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finished MAB

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Now I just have to wait to receive new boots :)
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Post by István » Monday 15 October 2007, 9:43

Looks nice! Do you plan mass production?

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Re: Deeluxe boot tuning (SAB----->MAB)

Post by fivat » Tuesday 23 October 2007, 17:13

Good job! :bravo:

It's good to see more and more people making better spring systems.

In 2002, at https://www.extremecarving.com , we didn't suspect that we were starting such a trend (for softer hard boots with good ankle system). But we are still waiting for a good model of hard boots that requires no tuning.

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Post by vkrouverk » Tuesday 23 October 2007, 19:50

Well, at least deeluxe has acknowledged ideas from EC manifesto. From their homepage:
http://www.deeluxe-hardboots.com/html/features.html
Alpine boards are becoming shorter again, even broader and less hard. The binding angle got flatter and see there – its fun again riding with hardboots. Its possible again to follow the joy of carving all day long, really controlling the board and not vice versa.

Long, slim and extremely hard boards are good, but you need thighs like a tree trunk and a ridiculous condition. Its a good advice for those having all that, but the others should have fun riding a snowboard as well.

DEELUXE has set its goal to support all hardboot riders and developed a new setup for this reason. Several models in different grades of material hardness for various riders and styles.
IMO their buckle system in Track boots is already better than old one, now if they can provide decent forward flex mechanism similar to Northwave :roll:
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Post by fivat » Tuesday 23 October 2007, 19:57

Hehe, yes, the things are changing! :D

I love the
its fun again riding with hardboots
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Post by Simon » Tuesday 23 October 2007, 22:37

Hi Marko

cool, looks like mine ;)

hope you will like it also on the board.

are you going to anodise the alu parts?

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Post by Felix » Wednesday 24 October 2007, 1:20

The problem is, Dee Luxe knows how to produce a good spring system and built it into their Nagano (maybe another Olympics) special edition which was for some month even on sales at Blue Tomato (they got some left over to sell off - they were not intended to go in the open market). I have a friend who rides one of those boots with double spring produced at Dee Luxe. Off course that boot was special in beeing a lot stiffer than the Indy by that time, but it had a good spring system.

Why they don't put it into other boots noone knows? Maybe the racers at Nagano didn't like it so they dropped it?

And yes, the MAB SAB looks really nice. Damn I have too get a nice spring system too, boots with race tongues and locked at the back is simply too stiff.
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Post by The Blitz » Wednesday 24 October 2007, 9:47

If I remember, Benj has built some SAB with CNC's program...But I never see the result :x
Perhaps a small production for ECS ?...
Felix wrote:Dee Luxe knows how to produce a good spring system and built it into their Nagano (maybe another Olympics) special edition which was for some month even on sales at Blue Tomato
It's a new model, or a "Indy" special edition ?
Felix wrote:I have a friend who rides one of those boots with double spring produced at Dee Luxe.
And where is pics :?:
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Post by Felix » Wednesday 24 October 2007, 11:49

No that was a special model based on the Indy for professional racers by Dee Luxe 5 years ago if I remember the time correctly, a bit like the the Track 1000, it was not intended for open public. I don't know if any other shop than Blue Tomato sold it, probably not.
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Post by floatingmatjaz » Saturday 27 October 2007, 15:17

Felix wrote:No that was a special model based on the Indy for professional racers by Dee Luxe 5 years ago if I remember the time correctly, a bit like the the Track 1000, it was not intended for open public. I don't know if any other shop than Blue Tomato sold it, probably not.
you mean these ones?
(see photo)

actually the spring mechanism seems quite normal?!
no double spring...
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maybe there were 2 Salt Lake City Olympics special editions? One with normal RAB, another one with double spring mechanism?!

...or (could be) the guy who sells the boots took apart the double spring system and built in a normal RAB found on another pair of Indys... :D
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Post by Felix » Saturday 27 October 2007, 16:15

Yeah the Salt Lake City Edition. Maybe F2 built it specially for some riders, I'm pretty sure it was promoted as a double spring system and is indeed a double spring system, however maybe my friend who bought the boot from an Austrian professional racer got a version modified by the racer he bought it from?
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Post by floatingmatjaz » Sunday 28 October 2007, 13:22

:)
everything is possible

it would be really interesting seeing some picture of the Deeluxe double spring system... (if you meet your friend, take your camera with you)

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Post by kurtsk8 » Tuesday 18 December 2007, 19:53

Hi,
I've a pair of Deeluxe Le Mans and i would like to "build" something like a RAB (something less expensive)
could you suggest me some dimensions?
I add an image showing SAB, I use this one because it's simpler to indicate the dimensions that I would need (I don't think to do something like that, I don't have machinery to do it).
I indicate the dimension with letter:
A : indicate the distance from the upper hole to the plate that separates springs.
B : indicate the length of the upper spring
C : indicate the length of the lower spring
D : indicate the distance between the lower hole and the beginning of the lower spring

could you indicate the rate of springs?
a special thanks to all of you that will help me
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Post by montefuca » Tuesday 18 December 2007, 20:38

i'm interested too..

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