Hi!
I've been riding the complete last winter and it was great. I mountainbiked a lot this summer and then hell broke lose.
I had terrible knee aches. Couldn't wlk properly etc. I got x-rays and the verdict was the space between the two bones was too narrow. Arthrose...
My 'housedoctor' told me not to go snowboarding for at least a year. I was almost brought to tears.
Now things are looking much better. 2 months of doing nothing really helped.
Now last weekend I talked to an Austrian friend who knows a lot of HB-riders and it seems to be pretty common thing. The pressure gets so high and the feet are so 'tight' the fluid just disappears...
Anyone here got that experience? I'll go carving for at least 2 weeks this winter, but it really scared me...
Thanks,
Jasper
Riding Hardboot & knee problems?
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Hi Jasper,
first of all, I did not have exactly the same problem as you, but I still hope to help a little bit. In any case I would visit a specialised sports doctor. I am just giving some of my ideas if someone here has specialised knowledge please correct me if my ideas are not right.
When I broke my leg a long time ago (when skiing!!) I got terrible knee aches when starting to walk and run again. In the evening I had to lie up the knee and to put cold pressures on it to be able to sleep. It took a while for these pains to go away (also I had made the mistake not to pause long enough and not doing a proper rehabilitation in the beginning) but when the muscles had rebuilt the problems disappeared entirely.
So in your case I would maybe check out if a special training program to increase your leg-muscles might help in stabilising the knee and thus reducing possible "friction" of the two spaces. To my knowledge this is related.
Maybe it was also simply too much - snowboarding and mountainbiking behind each other, and after all mountainbiking is quite monotonous for the knee and I think many bikers do have this problem. Though I do not know of HB carvers with your problems. And sometimes the muscles one builds up with "normal" training do not suffice for high "usage" (of course I do not talk of a kind of bodybuilding but of a really special physio-therapeutic program).
I could imagine all was a little bit too much for your knee but with training this should improve. And yes, maybe also this as general ideas: Do you go jogging? If yes do you have really good shoes and do you avoid hard pistes? Do you warm up extensively and stretch before doing sports? You might also try out these "bandages" for the knee - they stabilise a little bit and they keep the knee warm.
Good luck and let us know how it works.
Eduard.
first of all, I did not have exactly the same problem as you, but I still hope to help a little bit. In any case I would visit a specialised sports doctor. I am just giving some of my ideas if someone here has specialised knowledge please correct me if my ideas are not right.
When I broke my leg a long time ago (when skiing!!) I got terrible knee aches when starting to walk and run again. In the evening I had to lie up the knee and to put cold pressures on it to be able to sleep. It took a while for these pains to go away (also I had made the mistake not to pause long enough and not doing a proper rehabilitation in the beginning) but when the muscles had rebuilt the problems disappeared entirely.
So in your case I would maybe check out if a special training program to increase your leg-muscles might help in stabilising the knee and thus reducing possible "friction" of the two spaces. To my knowledge this is related.
Maybe it was also simply too much - snowboarding and mountainbiking behind each other, and after all mountainbiking is quite monotonous for the knee and I think many bikers do have this problem. Though I do not know of HB carvers with your problems. And sometimes the muscles one builds up with "normal" training do not suffice for high "usage" (of course I do not talk of a kind of bodybuilding but of a really special physio-therapeutic program).
I could imagine all was a little bit too much for your knee but with training this should improve. And yes, maybe also this as general ideas: Do you go jogging? If yes do you have really good shoes and do you avoid hard pistes? Do you warm up extensively and stretch before doing sports? You might also try out these "bandages" for the knee - they stabilise a little bit and they keep the knee warm.
Good luck and let us know how it works.
Eduard.
knees
It wasn't clear from your post whether the mountain bike caused a flare up or not. I know that if you seat on a bike is not high enough, it can really cause problems for the knees. The way mountain bikes are set up is with the seat lower than on a road bike. This is to facilitate sliding around and back off the saddle depending on the terrain.
I know that on road bikes, if someone complains about the knees, the first thing we look at is the seat height. It will usually have to come up. That takes care of it.
I have done other things to my knees. I was told to strengthen the muscles and not to run any more
I can still board, skate and ride so I am still a pretty happy camper.
So, knee problems are all different. I would get an exam by a sport specialist or someone who is familiar with snow sports.
d.b.
I know that on road bikes, if someone complains about the knees, the first thing we look at is the seat height. It will usually have to come up. That takes care of it.
I have done other things to my knees. I was told to strengthen the muscles and not to run any more
I can still board, skate and ride so I am still a pretty happy camper.So, knee problems are all different. I would get an exam by a sport specialist or someone who is familiar with snow sports.
d.b.
Had same problem
But after using 'Gelenk Nahrung' mixture from Koelbels Trainingforschung (www.koelbel.de ) my problems disappeared over years. This is gelatine mixture, which helps to build ligaments and recover lost fluid. I guess that it should be available in Netherland, ask from drug store or sport shops. Or you can probably order it directly from koelbels. But such cure takes time, at least 3-6 month before any improvement could be seen. So it won't help for this winter, but for next season you will be OK.
And when snowboarding, try to keep your knees warm, wear thermoband (sp??), it helps also.
And when snowboarding, try to keep your knees warm, wear thermoband (sp??), it helps also.
hi all!
Thanks for the help. I guess a mountainbiking-trip to Belgium is what flared it all. I never actually had any problems during my stay in Austria. I did warm up very well very morning (with my pupils), that was a good thing. I don't do jogging (hate it), but a lot of swimming. But as said, I've been without sports for at least 2 months, which is terrible BTW. Now I'm really slowly picking up again.
There's a MRI scan going to be made, just to be sure. The only thing is, I get the results after my first week of sb-ing...
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What I'm fearing is that I won't be able to control myself on the board and drive myself to the max. I've never been able to do that on the piste. Had almost-blackouts on more than one occasions...
Thanks,
Jasper
Thanks for the help. I guess a mountainbiking-trip to Belgium is what flared it all. I never actually had any problems during my stay in Austria. I did warm up very well very morning (with my pupils), that was a good thing. I don't do jogging (hate it), but a lot of swimming. But as said, I've been without sports for at least 2 months, which is terrible BTW. Now I'm really slowly picking up again.
There's a MRI scan going to be made, just to be sure. The only thing is, I get the results after my first week of sb-ing...
(What I'm fearing is that I won't be able to control myself on the board and drive myself to the max. I've never been able to do that on the piste. Had almost-blackouts on more than one occasions...
Thanks,
Jasper