Personnal dilemma, maybe a debate

Post by **pokkis** » Monday 7 March 2005, 21:16

My experience of Rad Air Tanker 200 are extremely positive

on slope or in off piste. Highly recomended

Post by **drcr** » Tuesday 8 March 2005, 2:29

pokkis wrote:My experience of Rad Air Tanker 200 are extremely positive on slope or in off piste. Highly recomended

With hardboots or softies?
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$79 + shipping for an OSin 4807? Sweet. I'll be lurking ebay for a while now...
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Nils, awesome link, thanks! But that wasn't what I was referring to. It was on your site. I thought it was in your news archives, but I didn't see it.

DrCR

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Post by **pokkis** » Tuesday 8 March 2005, 8:24

I'm riding it with F2 Hurricanes+Intec HBX ie softies but my friend has same board and he rides with Raichle 323 and he is as happy with board as i am

Post by **raphael** » Wednesday 30 March 2005, 22:21

This week-end I did ride my Rossignol Undertaker 185 swallow tail for the first time. I mounted it with my race bindings. I can't believe how easy it is to ride.

It was excelent in heavy deep snow (wich is no surprise from a swallow) even in poor off piste conditions (crud and such). But it was also very good on piste, much easier on the bumps than my GS. I loved the way you don't have to change position when you cross in-off piste. And it carved much better than any freeride board i tested. Concidering its width, i even think it should be easier for EC than my GS.

(But i can't even EC on a Swoard yet

)

I didn't test enough boards to make an official statement. But to me a swallow tail seems to be an extremely good allround board, maybe the best. At least the Undertaker is a damn good on-piste-&-off-piste board for someone using the swiss school technique. I love it.

My next board will be a Swoard. Then i won't be needing anything else

Post by **SITO** » Thursday 31 March 2005, 0:38

Hey Guys,

Never I ride on Swallow tail how undertaker or other brand, and really I would like to have one because of course this tipe of board is good for power, his ride position is very rear and comfy for not to ride with the nose sink in the snow.

But in really there are few days in the season with deep-snow, and you must ride just in this days only if it allow for your work, you know , and if you are in lucky, and you can ride just in this power day, only in a few hours all off-piste in the resort will be destroyed(too much board track), so at the end I finish on piste, and this is my question.

Really ,not is more versatile an board how tanker which also work very good in power and on piste (traditional design) & an swallow designed only for power?

Sito

Post by **raphael** » Thursday 31 March 2005, 11:09

Hola Sito,

No estoy seguro que entendí bien su mensaje. Pero si era cosa de lo que es mejor entre Longboard y Swallowtail, yo pienso, sin una duda, que la Swallowtail es mejor por cada situacion, menos quizas los saltos.

Debes entender que las Swallotailes modernas son muy diferente de las viejas. El objetivo de las modernas es de ser el último instrumento por fuera pista. Que significa que no debe solamente ser buena en la nieve polvorosa, pero tambien con la profunda, la pesada, la trabajada, la costrada, la soplada, la dura, y debe tambien funcionar sobre el hielo. No hay mejor tabla por todas esas situaciones. Pero un efecto de ser buena para la nieve dura lo hace buena por el carving. Una swallowtail moderna tiene un punta flexible y un centro de la tabla muy dura. Asi puede ser utilizada como una freecarve. Y con su punta larga, tiene una 'contact length' más corta que un longboard equivalente. Asi es mas facil girar on la pista. Y la cola permite acortar una curva. Lo que es muy practico

. Por exemplo mi swallowtail es mucho mas facil en las bañeras que mi tabla de GS.

Está triste que no sacamos fotografías este fin de semana, porque habrías visto que duramente una Swallowtail moderna puede hacer carving.

Y eso con mi pobre technica.

Post by **raphael** » Thursday 31 March 2005, 11:35

For contact length, a swallow does not compare with a longboard. For exemple my Undertaker 185 has only 137cm of contact length, it's less than a swoard 168

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So it's long but it doesn't feel long at all.

Post by **SITO** » Thursday 31 March 2005, 22:11

Hi Raphael!
Yeees, you understand perfect my question

, and your replay have been perfect, Thanks for the advice, reading your experience in modern swalow, I would like to buy one so , what do you think it would be the most versatile powder-piste size swallow for me?(172tall, 75 weight)???

Hey Raphael.. Congratulations for your Spanish!

is very good!

Sito

Post by **raphael** » Friday 1 April 2005, 9:10

SITO wrote:Hi Raphael!
Yeees, you understand perfect my question , and your replay have been perfect, Thanks for the advice, reading your experience in modern swalow, I would like to buy one so , what do you think it would be the most versatile powder-piste size swallow for me?(172tall, 75 weight)???

Im glad i could help.

For the choice, you'd better ask Nils. He is the real swallowtails specialist

SITO wrote:Hey Raphael.. Congratulations for your Spanish! is very good!

I used the dictionary a lot

Post by **nils** » Friday 1 April 2005, 14:00

get the undertaker, or if you can afford it the swell panik magistral 185, or the Global, also from swell panik

Nils

Post by **SITO** » Friday 1 April 2005, 19:41

Nils
sorry for my ignorance,

because I never heard about this, could you give an web, shops, .....about this new swallow- brand for me??

Sito

Post by **SITO** » Friday 1 April 2005, 20:10

Nils,
I have found it!

Thanks

Sito

Post by **SITO** » Monday 11 April 2005, 21:26

Hi guys!
My Undertaker is in way to me !

in five days I'll get it in my home!
This season is closed here in Spain

but the RS was in good price so it was a good oportunity for buy it for ride it in the next season.

Nils, what would be the settings for my bindings??(my feet is 25,5 m.p)

And, in which insert ( rear , center, front ) must I ride??

Sito

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