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Soft Shells, How snowboard boots got stuck in the past...

Post by joel » Wednesday 20 November 2019, 18:53

Browsing the web, I found an interesting article about Hardboots and soft boots... It's a bit US invented everything oriented :evil: but quite interesting...


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Post by jax » Thursday 21 November 2019, 13:00

Bullshit
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Post by user » Thursday 21 November 2019, 14:07

why?

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Re: Soft Shells, How snowboard boots got stuck in the past...

Post by fivat » Friday 22 November 2019, 9:40

jax wrote:
Thursday 21 November 2019, 13:00
Bullshit
Can you argue, Jax? :D

There are many things in this article that we are also saying for years. The "skate culture" for example, or the wrong idea that snowboard hard boots are too close to ski boots.

I often see riders who have stiffer soft boots than my own hard boots! :lol:

And regarding the step-in bindings for soft boots, there are many things to say about all the mistakes made on the market.

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Post by jax » Friday 22 November 2019, 11:14

Maybe writing "bullshit", was too much from me.

One of the errors made from various parts is to assume that alpine snowboarding, alpine carving, softboot carving and softboot riding and, why not, all the variants of skiing are nearby just because they are sliding on snow.

They are different sports that needs different stuff.

Ok, everybody can make a decent EC turn with almost every stuff.

But is the best, easyest, safer, enjoyable way?

I'm not that good snowboarder, I'm tall, eavy and old but I have some experience that let me know that the right equipment will help you going back to home, after a day on snow, with a smile.

I'm sure that people are influenced from the pro riders but, I don't think that pro riders don't use the top materials just to meet the market.

So if they use some stuff, is just because that can help them in having best results.

Years ago I rode in an half pipe with a Burton FP 160 with Burton Race and Raichle 125, the first run with buckles laced, leaning mechanism locked and everythig was impossible.
After I had unlaced two buckles and unlocked the leaning mechanism and everythig worked better.
But all the guys in soft boots was having a better day than mine.
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Post by nils » Wednesday 27 November 2019, 13:58

Adding my answer on alpinesnowboarder

interesting article for once, American biased of course (the snowboard world was moving big on this side of the ocean too at that time)... but the hypothesis on why seems to be skippin the idea that it all came from marketing from the majors (especially Burton/Sims, but also fashion brands).

The reason is simple: FS sells because it brings year long pics of dudes with fluo gear and later baggy / grunged inspired gear that would sell to the masses of kids getting at best a few days riding or none each season. FS is circus (air rotations etc.) that looks extreme and summer camps bringing easy pics not far from media also helped promoting FS (not for the spirit of snowboarding) but for big $$$. It only forgot that turns are what makes the sport so nice..and carved turns adding G forces making it nicer!

I remember the first French media reactions when we launched Swoard: they said: alpine gear... are u a kamikaze?

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Re: Soft Shells, How snowboard boots got stuck in the past...

Post by jax » Thursday 28 November 2019, 9:10

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