2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

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2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by Pkay » Monday 11 November 2019, 0:31

Hi All!

I will be soon purchasing DUAL 2. I'd like to know your opinion about boots and bindings?

My experience with Flow:
In the last couple of years, I used Flow boots and bindings; however, the binding was not capable of taking the EC turns; it kept coming loose after ac couple of turns. The metals frame got bent and the buckles got broken. (my conditions are pretty rough: 3 years, 12-15 days every year; 90 minutes constant carving on each day (excluding time on lift).

Available options:
These are what I have found on the market so far:

Bindings:
(https://unionbindingcompany.com/product ... 4677266537)

Boots:
https://www.thirtytwo.com/us/boots/mens ... FF&start=5

Please let me know what bindings and boots you'd recommend :)

Thank you,
Pk

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by Arnaud » Monday 11 November 2019, 11:35

Hi

About boots, have a look to :
Nitro Team, Select or Capital : https://www.nitrousa.com/men/boots
Northwave Decade or Domain : http://northwavesnow.com/en/products/boot/man/
Salomon Malumute or HiFi : https://www.salomon.com/en-int/shop-eme ... boots.html

As binding we also suggest Now Drive or the new PHK Mix : http://www.phk-italia.com/en/products/mix-2/
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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by hps » Monday 11 November 2019, 12:48

Nitro Capital TLS are top but very expensive...

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by Pkay » Thursday 14 November 2019, 11:36

Awesome!!!
Thank you for the suggestions!

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by Buckner » Saturday 23 November 2019, 16:16

Are they worth it to an average user though? I don't mind a bit more expensive gear if it's worth it.

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by Arnaud » Saturday 23 November 2019, 18:21

First day with the Northwave Decade. I'm really happy with them.
The liner is comfortable and ensure a perfect holding.
Flex is moderate and allow good control during turns with quick edge change.
No compression under the toe strap, the boot is stiff enough in the toe area.
The main weak point is the length. The footprint is higher then other models (size 28)

Tested on a Dual 163 with Mix bindings
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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by Johann Knieschluss » Saturday 23 November 2019, 20:23

Thank You very much, Arnaud.
Very helpful. :clap: :clap:
Hope to see you soon again. :hello:

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by The Blitz » Monday 9 December 2019, 22:14

Arnaud wrote:
Monday 11 November 2019, 11:35
As binding we also suggest the new PHK Mix : http://www.phk-italia.com/en/products/mix-2/
Available where ?
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Post by Swoard team » Wednesday 11 December 2019, 0:37

PHK team is finishing the assembling.
Don't expect delivery during Christmas rush and holidays, it's hell.
So please wait for January to get more info. :pray:

We already have some preseries which you could see during the 17th ExtremeCarving Session in Zinal.

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by nils » Monday 6 January 2020, 9:46

Just my 2cents
The Dual 2 is also a great boot with hardboots!
Am riding mine with light Swoard Redline bindings ( tried also with TD2's and fin's carbon) and my light TLT6 ski touring boots I am using for splitboarding...the combo is nice and with lower angles than on the Extremecarver it feels also more agile. ( Front 42/back 25 )

I am using the Dual2 for all the days where I am not using the Extremecarver or my splitboard or my powderboards...which means 50% of my riding now is on the Dual2 with hardboots!

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by slayer » Friday 24 January 2020, 21:52

nils wrote:Just my 2cents
The Dual 2 is also a great boot with hardboots!
Am riding mine with light Swoard Redline bindings ( tried also with TD2's and fin's carbon) and my light TLT6 ski touring boots I am using for splitboarding...the combo is nice and with lower angles than on the Extremecarver it feels also more agile. ( Front 42/back 25 )

I am using the Dual2 for all the days where I am not using the Extremecarver or my splitboard or my powderboards...which means 50% of my riding now is on the Dual2 with hardboots!
Interesting, as used hardboots with my Dual, and paid the price with Plantar faciitis. I was riding 'all conditions', and also doing other impact sports, but it certainly played a part. So anything that softens things, I am interested. I am on the original Dual though, is it vastly different?
Dual 175, Burton Driver-X, Union Ultra .
Gen4 175M, UPZ RC10, F2 Race Titanium.

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by nils » Thursday 30 January 2020, 13:57

Not sure to understand your question...

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Re: 2019-20 Boots and Bindings for SWOARD DUAL 2

Post by slayer » Friday 31 January 2020, 1:03

Let me re-phrase. I was riding with F2 Race Titanium and UPZ RC10 on original Dual 175, and conditions which were not smooth, the impact to the feet was not good. It is a wide board, and the damping is not the same as Gen4 and above, it seems. Not sure on the latest Dual, as did not try this (was travelling light and did not bring softboots for testing in Zinal).

I am curious to see how the PHK Mix bindings, with the spring, works out.
Dual 175, Burton Driver-X, Union Ultra .
Gen4 175M, UPZ RC10, F2 Race Titanium.

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