Hi!
I have a problem and I think you guys might be able to help me. I want to buy a new board. I already have a board. It' Hot Blast (Stiff) 164 (year 2000). It's great board but with one big disadvantage. It's too stiff. Or I might say that my legs are not strong enough for it. It's great for carving and it does the job well. Very well. But it just takes to much energy to keep it in carve so my legs hurt like hell after few turns and that 's no fun.
SO this year I decided to buy a new board. Softer but still not to soft so I can carve like "maniac". I just want to have fun.
And now I have a problem. I don't which board to choose. In my country (Slovenia) I can only choose between F2 boards or Goltes boards (Slovenian boards). I'd like to buy F2 board because everybody speeks so well about them. And now I have a tough decision to make. Which one?
I can only chose between GTS, silberpfeil or speedster SL.
I would buy silberpfeil but it's just a bit to narrow, speedster SL is a race board but I guess it's also very stiff so it wouldn't be any improvement and the GTS is something in between. But the guy in the shop said it's more for beginners.
Does anybody have any experiences with those boards? Which one would you recommend?
I am not into EC (yet). I just want to be able to be carving and having fun doing it.
thank you,
Saso
Buying new board
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Saso,
Are you sure that it is because of the stiffness of the board? I mean if you can carve like a 'maniac' you definetely need a stiff board. With a too soft board you'll not be able to do that.
Now the second step is that (I believe) all of us feel the pain in the muscles after heavy carving, but it is natural. Even after one ride it hurts, but then on the lift it rests and gets better.
If you feel something unbearable, than it might be caused by the settings (angles, lifts, cants, wifth, forward lean, etc).
As for the boards, Speedster is rather soft, once I had one, but it was too soft for my weight then. I also had a Silberpfeil it is a very good carving board, especially on hard-pack, but indeed too narrow, so I had problems with the high angles.
SL is preferred by many people here, must be a good board.
On the other hand, you are pretty close to Austria, there you have a much bigger palette to chose from.
Cheers,
István
Are you sure that it is because of the stiffness of the board? I mean if you can carve like a 'maniac' you definetely need a stiff board. With a too soft board you'll not be able to do that.
Now the second step is that (I believe) all of us feel the pain in the muscles after heavy carving, but it is natural. Even after one ride it hurts, but then on the lift it rests and gets better.
If you feel something unbearable, than it might be caused by the settings (angles, lifts, cants, wifth, forward lean, etc).
As for the boards, Speedster is rather soft, once I had one, but it was too soft for my weight then. I also had a Silberpfeil it is a very good carving board, especially on hard-pack, but indeed too narrow, so I had problems with the high angles.
SL is preferred by many people here, must be a good board.
On the other hand, you are pretty close to Austria, there you have a much bigger palette to chose from.
Cheers,
István
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roman
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new board
hey!
one that's easy to carve like hell? could be a virus rocket, 162 long and 17 in the center. of corse there are many more. but this one is as easy to carve as step into a binding.
ride on!
one that's easy to carve like hell? could be a virus rocket, 162 long and 17 in the center. of corse there are many more. but this one is as easy to carve as step into a binding.
ride on!
Roman, just curious, what angles do you apply to avoid heel / nose stick-out?
I had a Silberpfeil, some 18,5 cm wide, and F66 B63 was the smallest angle with boots sized 43 where the boot heel at the back did not touch the ground when fully laid. I felt like on a skwal....
On the other hand, I do believe that it is easy to carve with that, but is it possible to do linked, laid turns? What's the radii of the board?
Cheers,
István
I had a Silberpfeil, some 18,5 cm wide, and F66 B63 was the smallest angle with boots sized 43 where the boot heel at the back did not touch the ground when fully laid. I felt like on a skwal....
On the other hand, I do believe that it is easy to carve with that, but is it possible to do linked, laid turns? What's the radii of the board?
Cheers,
István
F2 GTS experience
I was in a quite similar situation last year, considered exactly this three F2 board, and finally went with the GTS. The Silberpfeil was way too narrow (only 18.4 cm), and the SL seemed too race-oriented.
I'm quite happy with my GTS, the stiffness is OK for me ( I'm about 100 kilos). The only problem is that even the GTS is not wide enough, so I'm forced to ride with a bit higher angles to avoid boot overhang.
I'm quite happy with my GTS, the stiffness is OK for me ( I'm about 100 kilos). The only problem is that even the GTS is not wide enough, so I'm forced to ride with a bit higher angles to avoid boot overhang.
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roman
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hey!
of corse the angles are way ahead of the '60ties'... i was always saing, it functions with steep angles, if you are used to it. the rocket has a sharp shape, really easy to carve all kinds of radius, because of the elliptical sidecut. for me personal it is not the joyce. i ride with lots of forwardpressure (don't ask me why, it just makes me happy..) and so it carves always in very very tight circles. but if you ride it easy from the middle of the board, everithing is possible with it.
of corse the angles are way ahead of the '60ties'... i was always saing, it functions with steep angles, if you are used to it. the rocket has a sharp shape, really easy to carve all kinds of radius, because of the elliptical sidecut. for me personal it is not the joyce. i ride with lots of forwardpressure (don't ask me why, it just makes me happy..) and so it carves always in very very tight circles. but if you ride it easy from the middle of the board, everithing is possible with it.
Bence, an other Hungarian member - WELCOME!
On the other hand, GTS must be too soft for you. I was less then 100 kg when I had it (4 seasons ago), I had less knowledge on EC but even then the board bent too much when I pushed too hard so I felt over the tip usually.
Have you ever had such an experience?
Cheers,
Istvan
On the other hand, GTS must be too soft for you. I was less then 100 kg when I had it (4 seasons ago), I had less knowledge on EC but even then the board bent too much when I pushed too hard so I felt over the tip usually.
Have you ever had such an experience?
Cheers,
Istvan
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frunobulax
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I'd also say GTS would maybe be too soft for you. A friend of mine is just selling his' because it became boring to him, and he's far from EC at the moment. GTS is like the SL-shape but softer so it would make smaller turns and, you see, I cannot imagine doing smaller turns than an SL-board does.... 
Not knowing anything about the SL I would probably go for the RS which is a good board in my opinion and possibly even easier to ride than the SP. There's been a lot of talking about the SP in this forum and I think we came to the conclusion that it's not ideal for EC.
BTW, Bence, I would probably go for Kaprun this WE, so when I see a flying snowball crying hungarian curses it would be you?
Not knowing anything about the SL I would probably go for the RS which is a good board in my opinion and possibly even easier to ride than the SP. There's been a lot of talking about the SP in this forum and I think we came to the conclusion that it's not ideal for EC.
BTW, Bence, I would probably go for Kaprun this WE, so when I see a flying snowball crying hungarian curses it would be you?