Shell size question

Post by **narath** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 12:02

Hey,

Which boots have shorter shell with same liner size? UPZ or DeeLuxe/Raichle?
For me as person with foot lenght 29,5 mondo points the sorter shell is better choice to avoid boot-out.

cheers,

N.

Post by **pokkis** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 12:13

Question is what people mean with shell length

overal length of whole boot is only important factor related boot out.
Some boots hav shorter lenght between binding contact point due bail is built under heel but that will make rider standing hifher. Some folks dont like that so much

Post by **narath** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 12:16

Overal length of the boot is what i meant

Post by **Arnaud** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 12:25

UPZ should be shorter, with a more compact design

Post by **pokkis** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 12:28

And higher

Post by **narath** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 12:56

Which of the UPZ models is comperable to DeeLuxe's Suzuka?

Post by **Arnaud** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 13:35

Have a look here (in italian, sorry)
viewtopic.php?t=7336

Post by **narath** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 13:45

Looks interesting however I dont think I can affort new UPZs. I'd rather buy something older.
But thx for the suggestion anyway.

Post by **starikashka** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 15:50

We made an experiment...Maxle use UPZ RC10 with 28.5 size. I use Deeluxe Suzuka with 27 size shell.

He was able to get into my bindings without any adjustment

Post by **Arnaud** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 16:03

Yes, but because the heel bail is more advanced due to the shell design. This is not necessarily linked to shell size

Post by **narath** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 16:09

I made some reasearch through this and bomber forum. As come to UPZ RC10 most ppl praise them.

I just starded my adventure with hard gear. My weight is 83kg with 186cm height. I'm riding F2 Speedster GTS 166 (longest available). Do You think UPZ RC10 are good choice for beginner? (I tried to ride with Ski boots and It was not as bad I as I thought It will be).

Post by **Arnaud** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 16:12

UPZ RC10 are stiff boots, and I'm not sure it's the best gear to start in hardboots. Softer boots are more forgiving for beginners

Post by **pokkis** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 16:14

starikashka wrote:We made an experiment...Maxle use UPZ RC10 with 28.5 size. I use Deeluxe Suzuka with 27 size shell.

He was able to get into my bindings without any adjustment

On F2 soft Intec boots you can fit all size in same binding, so that does not tell anything

Only meaningfull value is total space boot is taking plus additionally user preference to standing height

Post by **narath** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 16:16

Any UPZ suggestion? According to many ppl and http://www.alpinecarving.com/boot_models.html "The sole base is shorter than most other boots, which allows lower binding angles." So UPZ is the choice, but what models should I consider?

Post by **Transistor Rhythm** » Thursday 25 March 2010, 16:19

narath wrote:I made some reasearch through this and bomber forum. As come to UPZ RC10 most ppl praise them.

I just starded my adventure with hard gear. My weight is 83kg with 186cm height. I'm riding F2 Speedster GTS 166 (longest available). Do You think UPZ RC10 are good choice for beginner? (I tried to ride with Ski boots and It was not as bad I as I thought It will be).

Most important thing is a good fit. All other considerations are secondary. If you have heel lift or your toes go numb you don't care about having 5mm less boot out at the same angles. All hardboots can be adjusted to something usable, most aren't perfect out of the box. Secondary is the flex. If there is a choice left after that, you could consider shorter sole.

Especially for a beginner experiencing boot out is actually a moment you want to celebrate. It means you are getting low enough!