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Deeluxe AF 700 + F2 Titanium Intec

Post by Boardercrime » Monday 25 October 2004, 11:46

Hello

I want to purchase a Deeluxe AF700 and a F2 Titanium Intec Binding

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What you think of this combo ? I got a Swoard and i'm 83 kg and 1.81 cm high....

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Post by pokkis » Monday 25 October 2004, 13:38

Depends quite alot of your skill level :)
But please note that even that binding is reasonable flexy, boot is race level boot so at minimum softer spring is recommended. Take alook for spring mods, several are presented here in several threads.
But hey i'm using those boots are specially love the color even they are way too stiff for my taste but i hope after latest mods they are flexy enough for my weel feets too :lol:

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Post by Boardercrime » Monday 25 October 2004, 14:54

But you think the boot after a spring modififcaton ist okay ?
Or better a Suzuka with springs ?

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Step-in

Post by István » Monday 25 October 2004, 17:37

I have the same boots (2003-04 model, but the same), indeed it is quite stiff, but very good quality boots.

As for the bindings, I would not go for step-in....


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Post by vkrouverk » Monday 25 October 2004, 18:04

I'd get Titanium bindings instead of titanflex: titanflex has plastic riser (Zwischenplatte, it's this black plastic disc on lower part of binding on picture) and boot will be quite high above board (something like 4 cm IIRC). If you have big feet and don't want high angles, then it could be good thing, but I prefer more lower Titanium bindings. Of course this riser gives additional flex and dampening, which might be good thing.
Additionally Swoard team (and World Cup riders as well) seem to prefer regular bindings, as intecs are too stiff laterally. I can't comment on that, though this year I intend to try regular bindings instead of intecs.
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Post by Alexey » Monday 25 October 2004, 22:27

Looking for TD2 bindings or Catek. Price almost the same.

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Post by pokkis » Monday 25 October 2004, 22:37

Bordercrime has not told where located, but if that is in EU, there is huge difference in price. Those F2's cost like 140 plus freight (~20) euros. Cateks Olympics or Bomber TD's cost twice that with freight and taxes.

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Post by Boardercrime » Tuesday 26 October 2004, 7:53

I'm coming from switzerland. I want a intec because i often go with ski-drivers and they don't like to wait after the skilift 'til i got my bindings on.
Would be a conventional Titanflex and this boot with spring-modification okay for Extreme Carving ?

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Post by pokkis » Tuesday 26 October 2004, 8:26

Some people feel that conventional are more flexier and that way better.
But me personally think that Titanflex is flexy enough and extra comfort of step-in is sooo nice :lol:
Only thing as you i would think is between Indy and Suzuka. If you are experienced carver, go with Indy, or if you like nice color as i do.
Otherwise take Suzuka, you can add springs on them too.
My humble 0.0002 cents woth advice :lol:

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Post by vkrouverk » Tuesday 26 October 2004, 8:37

Hi, Boardercrime!
I guess that if you want to do extreme carving and ride with skiers, then they have to wait for you anyway: skiers go much faster down than snowboard carvers, as their path is much shorter, they don't make such semicircles as boarders :) And if you have little experience, then you can attach your foot to bail (standard) binding faster than they can take their poles to hands.
Anyway, if you read French (Swiss as you are), then here are couple of links from french forums, where Rilliet expresses his content with F2 Titanium bindings, only problem is that they don't allow board to flex naturally due to base plate construction.
viewtopic.php?t=798
viewtopic.php?t=860
And here is test of Raichle boot with Intec:
viewtopic.php?t=732
Stating:
The INTEC system is totaly unsuited to our smooth style and our stance
Same topic in French (if you understand it better)
viewtopic.php?t=729
Based on opinions from these topics I'd dare to say, that if you go with standard F2 Titanium bindings and modified Raichle boots, then it won't be limitation for practicing EC.
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Post by Boardercrime » Tuesday 26 October 2004, 9:44

So best thing something like this:

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But i'm not sure something like this is avaible in switzerland.


Edit:

Found a link in the thread you mentioned, but this bindings are holy expensive !!

http://www.oxess.ch/equipment.htm

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Post by Alexey » Tuesday 26 October 2004, 10:39

to pokkis: A bindings can send as "used stuff" with removed original binding box and declared value about $80. If sender a private person, then no any problems with custom in this case. Even in Russia.

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Post by pokkis » Tuesday 26 October 2004, 10:54

Heh, yes there are some "unleagal" ways to solve issue :) but my reference was to normal way.
But still TDs/Cateks will be twice the price of F2s even you manage skip taxes :cry:

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Post by Alexey » Tuesday 26 October 2004, 11:23

to pokkis: For Catek OS set (Catek Olympic bindings + Step In kit + Step In heels) I paid $353 included shiping fee in Russia by express mail.
F2 bindings here ~$225 + $50 for heels = $275
Else one cause: For F2s binding via year use you can get less than %40 from retail value. Catek/TD lost only %20.

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Post by pokkis » Tuesday 26 October 2004, 11:41

Yeah, difference here is that your start price for F2s is very high, even from Tomato one can get them lot cheaper
Intec Titanium 03/04
statt 180,- €
153,00 €
and elwhere even cheaper :lol:
Cateks cost 270USD and step heel 50 so you got very nice price :)
But yes one should compare bindings only ie 153EUR against 270 USD but in Europe i belive shiping is cheaper that from state, unfortunately. :D

But please note that if one orders either Catek's or TD's, i really recommend order same time spare heel pices cause those alu-heel pieces will wear out very quickly. Mine were unusable after two seasons in normal use and i even switced place of front and rear piece. That is only problem area with those bindings, otherwise they are superb piece of craftmanship.

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