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EC-Training Part I

Post by skywalker » Monday 11 October 2004, 13:53

Hi to all,

I'm a little bit shy, because many of you may critisize my Training-shedule and especially that it is me to post it... but it was created last saison for a friend, who liked it, I guess ;). Now I would like to start with a first smaller part of it, which I translated into English. The big other part of it will be translated (hopefully) this week.

Chapter 1) Bord Introduction

The suggestions for this I got from different courses and above all the beginner chapters of a few books. Originally these exercises were meant for the first hours on the board, however showed up to be enormously helpful for feeling good on the board. Therefore my little sister (Alissa) and I have further developed these beginner exercises to a program, which we go through at least once at the beginning of each vacation or weekend and on every day, which is meant to training.

Board buckle. Bend legs centered over the board. Whip. Bend your legs further (bring your hips more deeply towards the board). Jump easily on the place. Seize the nose of your board. Seize the nose with both hands. Shift your weight further forward. Tighten rear leg even more, the Tail must be in the air. Do the same towards the Tail.

Draw the shape of your board into the snow (drive with the finger once around the entire board, you may change hands on the way). Pick up some snow on the frontside, put it to the backside. And vice versa. (This is possible in front, between and behind the legs) whip slightly from Nose to Tail. Whip so extremely from the front to the rear that nose or tail are lifted from the snow. Move you with the whipping forward of and back (some kind of pushing without touching the snow)

Turn forms without moving ahead and without properly loading the edges. Helps a lot to make conscious the course of motion, because you must solely concentrate on the basic movements. Jumps (high, to the frontside, to the backside, 90° turn right, 90° turn left, 180°...)

All this can be extended infinitely (e.g. weight on the nose and then turn over the nose...), but these are my collected basics. Occasionally center yourself on your board again and again, low-go/bend your legs, stand deep easily, shake your arms to ease them, Egyptian


Of course this isn't perfect, so you might take it as an idea (a good one or not). I hope, many of you will have fun with the Introduction!! :)

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Post by yomama » Monday 11 October 2004, 23:41

Actually, I have the same line of idea but regarding full blown beginners, that is, how to teach push/pull to a pure beginner who has never snowboard (read: my wife!! 8O :? :lol: )

I have never try coaching push-pull to a beginner but maybe our two instructors J&P can provide some thoughts here :idea: . If I were to teach a pure beginner, here what I would plan to do

1) Make them ride accross the bunny hill almost sitting on their butt so that any fall would be less painful (that's the pull part).
2) To turn front or back side, stand up and point with the front hand in the direction where you are going with upper body rotation (that would be the rotation/push part)
3) Repeat (1) and (2) on green slopes once the student would master the bunny slope.

Is this a good idea?

Thanks beforehand.

Peter :chinese:

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Post by Pux » Tuesday 12 October 2004, 9:17

I would not agree regarding the siting on their but. Fall on the but is paintfull anyway. Moreover, it might be hard to change that accuired stance in to the future.
I would like to offer even take some lessons in judo to fall on back instead of but or wear protective pads. :wink:

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Only one step.

Post by skywalker » Tuesday 12 October 2004, 10:44

Hi Peter,

IMO Push Pull is one of several different turns. In any case I wouls start with some basich training which should content something from board introduction, some getting up and falling down Training (care for the wrists, learn to fall!) and a lot of edge control training. This can be followed by basic turns and afterwards the different turn forms.

But every turn, already the stationary training should be performed as rotation-technique. There will be a lot about that in my next thread, so please be patient ;)

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Post by István » Tuesday 12 October 2004, 13:44

There is one point I'd like to add and this goes out to all carving turns. It might be obvious for us, but very helpful for beginners or freestylers.

I usually tell them the following when I try to help them to learn carving:
Do not try to rule the board, do not try to determine the shape of the curve, just push it a bit, put it on the edge and then follow what the board wants to do, let it do the curve, you just have to ride it. Do not try to amend or overrule the curve, just flow with it.

I hope you know what I mean and I have found this instruction useful many times, especially in case of freestylers, who know how to ride, but do not know how to carve.

Cheers,

István

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