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Asymmetrical Snowboards - best boards 4-ever?

Post by Schneewurm » Sunday 19 October 2008, 22:31

Long time ago, nobody is talking about the skill how to ride on backside or on frontside.
People just talk about of the enjoy to ride a snowboard.
No a days in forums there are many discussions about e.g. "how I can improve my back side" and similiar.

So everyone who ownes and rode his asy's, knows that he has just to ride on his board.
He has not to search all that time and every next turn the sweetest spot of balance on his board.

Once boardmakers offered some boards with asymmetrical shape, differential sidecuts, differential sidecut progressions, stiffer heelside, differential flex patterns on each edge - that was the realy big challenge to every good boardmakers.

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Entering winter 2008/2009 some board-labels of freestyle boards presents now at least two new asymmetrical shapes. You can find them only on the top of the end from theire board lines!

Remember: asy-boards for alpine carving are rare now out on the EU and on the rest of the world. Only in Switzerland two labels are comming with four asy's: Snowblind & Pureboarding.
  1. The one new twintip freestyle board, the ARTEC FIGMENT comes in 4 lenght. Artec is the "high end line" from the Yugoslawian Elan brand. They have a symmetrical outline, but different sidecuts. (Difference is about 0.5 m of sidecut on each lenght and a more agressive cut at heel edge, less agressive on toe edge.
  2. The second one twintip freestyle board comes from FTWO (F2). The LURE is available in two lenght and offers differential sidecuts (0.2 m), a stiffer heelside and a torsinal axle behind the middle of the board.
Well it seems, there are now freestylers (they ride at very low angles), which have a demand of a realy smooth and stylish riding style. They want to enjoy themself on the real basic and authentic feeling of snowboarding and not to be every turn on searching the balance of here body and adaption of the force on the board!
Gliding on Snowboards,
like Pogo, Kessler, Virus, Hot, Nidecker and others,
from 151 up to 183 cm and 14 to 27.4 cm width,
covering any kind of shapes with
any kind of boots and bindings.

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interesting

Post by nils » Sunday 19 October 2008, 22:52

interesting....might indeed lead to a new kind of boards designed by biomechanic abilities....we'll see if the idea of having twodifferent sidecuts can lead somewhere...
I'm gonna look for a F2 WC beamer to ride and see if the feeling feels awkward today.. that board rocked then !

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Post by Schneewurm » Tuesday 21 October 2008, 11:42

F2 WC Beamer? O.K. the Beamer was the last board in asymmetrical shape produced in "mass", but it was for me the baddest joice of an asy! I testet once one of the latest models, I was not lucky about the feeling on snow.
Better ride an Oxbow, Radical or Circel-O (with stiff-backside-System) or perhaps a more known, longer and "newer" Nidecker Concept ("newer" because they have a wider stance option then the older ones). The Concepts were at about 21 cm waist.

Keep in mind, all new asy comes now as twintip! So You can use them for goofys and regulars! (with the warranty they are realy pure twintips for freestyle-snowboarding)

Rembember, NdK was presenting 1995/96 an asy Slalom board with symmetrical outline but asymetrical core and sidecuts (Sl 158: at 20 cm width SCR 9.0/8.2m), a winning board of all tests. I have unfortunately no experience with this board type, I rode only the full symmetrical GS 172 of the same board-line (GS 172: W18cm, SCR 14 m) for a day.
Gliding on Snowboards,
like Pogo, Kessler, Virus, Hot, Nidecker and others,
from 151 up to 183 cm and 14 to 27.4 cm width,
covering any kind of shapes with
any kind of boots and bindings.

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well

Post by nils » Tuesday 21 October 2008, 12:49

Beamer WC ( white and black ) was a great board ( 92-93?)...the hot logical also, as well as one of my fav the Lacroix Eagle Race...there was also great boards from freesurf ( mustang...), even the mistral was good, a bit similar to the oxbow..

never tried the nid assyms so cant talk about them.
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Post by István » Tuesday 21 October 2008, 13:28

Don't quite get the point of this thread. Are you suggesting that asyms will come back in a form of a twin-tip freesyle / freeride form and they will be better than today's boards? :roll:

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Nidecker Concept 164

Post by Crosbie » Wednesday 22 October 2008, 15:26

It took a wide alpine board like the Swoard to persuade me to retire my Nidecker Concept 164 after a decade's riding.

I'm always on the piste with skiers (no other boarders) so need a board that's more suited to speed and icy conditions. The Swoard is even more stable at speed than the Concept.

I also have a soft boot+longboard rig (Lib Tech Doughboy 2m), which I switch over to in powder, e.g. Jackson Hole last Jan.

The asym aspect of the Concept seemed like a plausible idea to me (given 45ish angles). I'm not one to put fashion above function.

I'll have to work a bit more on unlearning counter-rotation for the extreme carves however... ;-)

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Post by b0ardski » Sunday 2 November 2008, 0:47

I had a 186cm nitro diablo in the '90s, it had 10m sidecut on the toeside & 9.5m sidecut on the heelside with twintips. It was a great all around board, but mine was pre-insert. The titanium plate under the bindings bent from too many jumps into heavy snow :cry:
Also had a 164 nidecker concept asym but I didn't ride it as much as my twintips so I gave it away, regretfully. It was a little too "hooky" for me, I wasn't as good of a carver then 8)
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