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[Freecarver]

According to the deg center disk that you'll going to use the following Excel attachment will give you the exact cant and lift that you will get according the angles that you will set your bindings.

P.S. On the A1 box of the Excel sheet put the number of deg of center disk that you are going to use and the parameters will change accordingly.

I think it's very interesting and helpful, so you can set you TD2 like your Phioka easily as you have all the deg of center disks.

Hope that helps.

[nils]

nice work
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[Freecarver]

nice work

Yes it is, but the Cons belongs to Jack M of BOL.

I'll except the Cons for the searching cause I don't think the majority of the TD2 users known the existence of this matrix.

[István]

I already got this from Bomber. But without criticizing: what's the merit in knowing these numbers? Unles you want to re-set an old setting that you remember by such numbers and not by the position of the disk...

It's more about trying / testing different settings....

Cheers

[codighel]

According to the deg center disk that you'll going to use the following Excel attachment will give you the exact cant and lift that you will get according the angles that you will set your bindings.

P.S. On the A1 box of the Excel sheet put the number of deg of center disk that you are going to use and the parameters will change accordingly.

I think it's very interesting and helpful, so you can set you TD2 like your Phioka easily as you have all the deg of center disks.

Hope that helps.

WOH !!!What a work !!! It does help...thank you

[Freecarver]

what's the merit in knowing these numbers?

I think that the majority of riders that they use TD like me from the very early stages they adjust them by luck, without ever knowing the real settings.
When you ever asked them, they would reply that they set the senter disk on 90 deg with 60deg angle on the plates and they say that only use lift..!! and no canting but in reallity according to the matrix they get both of them.(Talking about 3-6 deg.center disks)

I don't think that a lot of us thought that if you want only lift you should set your plates angle accordingly with the center disk deg.(Talking about the first days of TD's that center disks markings wouldn't excisted)

But if you wanted canting aswell what is going to be the combination?And how much of it you really want and need?
I know that sounds to much complicated to a noobie in TD's and binding settings, but this is map to start with so to know where he/her going to start.

It's more about trying / testing different settings....

I found it really usefull about the demanded boards like yours of nowdays. I think is very usefull to know your previous settings so you can make your adjustments to find your fav.point and trim accordingly or atleast to have a start for your other boards. At least you know from where to start off.

Just my thoughts.

WOH !!!What a work !!! It does help...thank you..

Hi,
I'm glad that I'm helpfull in any way
Cheers.

[István]

Freecarver,

Yes, you are right. Setting the disks as I suggested will give you a combination of a lift and cant as I wrote. And you are right again, many people do not know what the difference is between the 2, so they use the words as synonims.

The geometry of this is not that complicated, imagine your legs as compasses. Your foot is designed to feel ok when perpendicular to you leg. Obviously when you sprawl your legs like an egyption painting and you want to keep your feet perpendicular to your legs your feet will need some toe and heel lifts. Then the binding angulation comes into play, so you will need some canting to compensate for that.

At lower angles the need for compensation is way less, that is why you feel comfy on a wide board riding flat, while most probably you will feel some need for compensation on a narrow board at high angles.

Maybe I put this a bit too complicated..... but it is simple....

What I wanted to say regarding the huge spreadsheet, is that in most of the cases you will not be able to use that. Say you had a Burton race binding with a cant+lift plate. Can you imitate that with a TD2 using the spreadsheet? No, because you do not know the exact geometry of the Burton plate. The same applies if you have a very complicated setting on a Catek. The numbers in the spreadsheet will not help you, as you cannot measure the same parameters on your catek. Unless you are an enginier and you have all the proper tools to do so....

Should you have 2 TD2s, then you don't need the numbers as you just copy-paste the disc setting.

That's all, but other than that it is a nice and interesting intellectual exercise.


Cheers

[Freecarver]

Even Catek has a cant/lift calculator for those are interesting.

http://www.catek.com/tiltcalculator.htm

[Hans]

Even Catek has a cant/lift calculator for those are interesting.

http://www.catek.com/tiltcalculator.htm

http://www.catek.com/Catek_Kessler_PR.pdf

[Freecarver]

Even Catek has a cant/lift calculator for those are interesting.

http://www.catek.com/tiltcalculator.htm

http://www.catek.com/Catek_Kessler_PR.pdf

I know amazing isn't it?

I have already opened a new thread about it.

I find the price tempting too don't you think so?