20th anniversary of Extremecarving.com and this Forum!

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Re: 20th anniversary of Extremecarving.com and this Forum!

Post by fivat » Friday 25 March 2022, 17:59

After 20 years, the Website banner is still the same! Quite an achievement! ;-)

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The photo was taken on Sunday 14 January 2001, on the "Le Col" piste (the famous piste we reserve for the ExtremeCarving Sessions). :bravo:
I remember that when you pressed the shutter button of the still camera (one of the first digital cameras), there was a delay of half a second before the image was taken. It was not easy... But almost all our pictures were successful and we never missed our turns. :oops:

The EC photos available at the opening of the Website are still visible today:
- Winter 2001
- Winter 2002
About freeriding, it's here:
- Photos 2001

We only needed two days each time to take these batches of photos. Looking back, it seems pretty crazy because it's so easy now with modern still cameras. We couldn't just shoot in burst mode and then keep only the best image. We had to make clean, well-controlled turns from start to end. Just like in the videos. 8)

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Re: 20th anniversary of Extremecarving.com and this Forum!

Post by olive » Saturday 26 March 2022, 19:54

A brief history of snowboarding

1985 was the first time I put my feet on a snowboard. Some friends had manufactured in their garage a copy of the Snowfish snowboard.
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Next winter i bought my first snowboard, a Hooger Booger that had no edges. Powder snow was mandatory. I sawed an old pair of skis and put Kandahar bindings on them for the ski lift, they were in the backpack for downhill snowboarding.
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Following season: Hot Snowboards, model One Sixty. It was one of the first "carving" shaped snowboard. At that time the word meant nothing. From that time on I never put skis on my feet anymore.
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Then I owned different alpine boards that were available at that time.
2003 I discovered the extreme carving website. I was in awe!
Without Patrice and Jacques I would probably have come back to skiing.

2004 first ECS, and then my first Swoard board.
I was highly motivated to "relearn" snowboarding, with EC as the ultimate goal.

Besides the aesthetic and fluid style, I think it is extraordinary how this technique gives us control over the steepest slopes, always on the edge. How exhilarating!

A huge thanks to Patrice who held on over the years despite the difficulties, sharing his passion with us.
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Re: 20th anniversary of Extremecarving.com and this Forum!

Post by nils » Monday 28 March 2022, 22:31

joemzl wrote:
Friday 25 March 2022, 15:09

An Egyptian was a 3000 year old guy.
:lol:

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Re: 20th anniversary of Extremecarving.com and this Forum!

Post by fivat » Thursday 21 April 2022, 17:59

olive wrote:
Saturday 26 March 2022, 19:54
Powder snow was mandatory.
Yes! :D And in the 80's there was much more powder than now in the Alps. This has contributed enormously to the development of the sport, initially off-piste.

Climate change is a reality. I remember we had walls of snow on the side of the roads during the winters in the Swiss Alps! We could ride in deep powder almost every weekend. Now it is more and more rare, and the big walls of snow on the side of the roads are gone. :(

Glaciers are also shrinking. Only two last ski resorts open in Switzerland during the summer: Zermatt and Saas Fee. Here are the resorts that have stopped: Verbier, Les Diablerets, Crans Montana (2001), Diavolezza (1998), Corvatsch (1993), ...

Fortunately, there is alpine snowboarding! With artificial snow, and groomers equipped with sonar (to measure the snow depth and better distribute it), it will still be possible to ride for many years! :bravo:

Over a season, we have more beautiful days of carving than freeriding! Especially since the off-piste is now too quickly ruined, because of the democratization of freeride skiing... :?

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Re: 20th anniversary of Extremecarving.com and this Forum!

Post by fivat » Thursday 21 April 2022, 18:21

olive wrote:
Saturday 26 March 2022, 19:54
1985 was the first time I put my feet on a snowboard.
It was the golden age. 8) Jacques started in 1984, I in 1987 and Nils in 1988.
As Jacques was among the first instructors in Switzerland (in 1988), I could benefit directly from his proper advises. Then I also become instructor in 1993.

In 1987 already, I was water skiing (with a monoski) and I was fascinated by the very inclined turns of the champion Patrice Martin: :pray2:

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Source here. The Frenchman Patrice Martin was 12 times world champion in water skiing from 1979 to 1999.

So, naturally, when snowboard carving appeared in the late 80's and early 90's, I wanted to reproduce that on snow and go even further.

I got some inspiration from a few pictures in the French magazines showing Jean Nerva and Serge Vitelli, two legends in the nineties. But my goal was to really link the turns, like in water skiing, and not to make single tricks in front of the camera.

As Jean said to Nils, the backside was really a problem at that time. In rare videos like this one, we can see only frontside turns: 10 frontside turns exactly... and 0 backside. 8O Note that 1) we don't see series of turns 2) the frontside turns are not fully laid and they are made in counter-rotation 3) the knees are touching each other 4) the arms are far apart.

Thus, there was a new world to explore. While Jacques was more freestyle oriented (he was making big cliff jumps in softboots), he followed me in my quest. Then began a real emulation between us. :bravo: We pushed each other to improve our movements and discuss a lot about technical points. It quickly became clear that the snowboards were limiting our progression (especially on the backside). By becoming a snowboard shaper at Wild Duck Snowboards (from 1990 to 1994, then still having access to a workshop), Jacques was able to develop adapted models in parallel. Improving our ride technique has improved the prototypes, and vice versa. :clap3:

It's only in 2001 that we created the word "extremecarving (EC)" to describe the fact that our laid technique pushes the body to the maximum possible contact with the snow. In addition to this, the turns must be linked, frontside and backside, what was really new, especially armpit to armpit.

EC must be a consequence of more and more inclined turns, till the extreme. This is not falling on the snow, :naughty: this is not body sliding, the rider must keep a nice control of his board on the edge.

To be followed! In future posts, I will give other anecdotes. :D

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Re: 20th anniversary of Extremecarving.com and this Forum!

Post by b.free » Monday 2 May 2022, 21:12

Hello everyone.
Any updates on future dates for Main event in Zinal?
And congratulations!

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Re: 20th anniversary of Extremecarving.com and this Forum!

Post by christian61 » Thursday 5 May 2022, 21:29

fivat wrote:
Thursday 21 April 2022, 18:21
In future posts, I will give other anecdotes. :D
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