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Carve *and* Slide

Post by yomama » Wednesday 4 December 2002, 3:13

Hi J&P,

As a result of pushing the board away from you during a carve, do you end up carving and sliding at the same time ?

This may explain the huge amount of snow spray you guys have at each carve ?

Peter

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Post by rilliet » Wednesday 4 December 2002, 7:36

Hi Peter,

No, we don't slide during EC turns, except sometimes on bad icy slopes.
Usually, these bad conditions are not a problem for us, but of course, they make perfect EC turn more difficult to master.
So, in some turns it may happen that we slide a little bit. But this has nothing to do with the roostertail...

In contrary, the laid out phase of the EC turn is the most carved possible we can get.

Jacques

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Post by audacium » Wednesday 4 December 2002, 9:37

Hi Peter,


this was also already discussed in an earlier thread (which name I do not remember any more). The huge amount of spray especially in E-carves comes from the very high edge pressure when the board is nearly vertical at high speed.
Jacques' and Patrice' carves are among the neatest one can find (also look closely at the videos - that is not sliding). :D


Greetz, Eduard.

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Post by bawbawbel » Sunday 8 December 2002, 7:26

Sliding is a dirty word, but maybe they slide like a Formula One racing car slides- just a short distance directly into the trench as it is being produced where the high edge pressure projects the snow rooster tail.

Regarding a less exquisite form of carving:

The Swiss Skibo patent involves .2mm deep cutouts (3 cm long, leaving 1 cm untouched) along the outside edges of the middle of skis and snowboards. Usually about 10 on each edge.
This has the effect of increasing the edge pressure to prevent them letting go on ice (especially if the edges are not razor sharp.)

The southern snow is gone before I have properly tested an experimental model- sacrificed an old board to science with cutouts ALL the way along the edge- but there is some interesting slow motion carving to be investigated, for those who have lots of icy piste.

Jan

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