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This subject is following the Feedback on the Swoard Extremecarver Pro (for Pro 1 and Pro1.1, previous versions).
Remember that unlike other brands, Swoard changes graphics and generation number only when there has been a real development work.
We perpetually develop and refine our technology, constantly testing many prototypes on all snow and pistes.
The success lies in the details, not really in the choice of this or that material more or less marketing.
The changes made to Pro2 are summarized in this topic.
What's inside our boards is seen outside, but on the rider!
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I was in Himos Ski Center yesterday with my Pro2 168M .
Slopes were in very nice condition and sun was shining.
So did I after first run .
I tested Pro 1.1 in Zinal (thanks Patrice!) a few days before the SDT 2017 and I was really impressed. It was much more stable and and faster than my old Pro1 (of course we have to remember that my Pro1 is S and Pro2 is M).
Yesterday I felt same and even more . Though Pro2 is more stable and fast it´s still very lively and agile. There are really no problems at the lifts or narrow trails to an other slopes.
Pro2 is now very high lever of the quality with all nice details.
This board is great and I really hope that next season will start soon.
P.S. in the afternoon slopes were not in so good condition and I did still smile .
Feedback on the Swoard Extremecarver Pro2
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Feedback on the Swoard Extremecarver Pro2
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Re: Feedback on the Swoard Extremecarver Pro2
So finally I tried my new Pro2. I had the Gen4, then the Pro and for this season I bought the Pro2.
The board is totally beyond words. It is absolutely amazing, it was no exaggeration it is an improvement over the EC Pro.
In my opinion the Pro2 board has more flex, it is softer, yet its shock absorption is better and it holds the line even better than the pro.
Plus because its flex, i can have a more aggressive radius.
It stays in the carve in a most composed way. When other boards give it up and bounce out of the line it just holds and holds.
I tried it back to back w my friend who rides my last year pro and the difference can clearly be felt. The pro is great and better then gen4, but the pro2 is a great improvement.
It is also very forgiving in bumpy slopes and when you ride slow/tired/ not carving. Very versatile. I even had a chance to go into deep snow this weekend in Austria (a very "uncarving" experience) and it was very good.
Possibly the best alpine board money can buy, definitely the best value for money.
The board is totally beyond words. It is absolutely amazing, it was no exaggeration it is an improvement over the EC Pro.
In my opinion the Pro2 board has more flex, it is softer, yet its shock absorption is better and it holds the line even better than the pro.
Plus because its flex, i can have a more aggressive radius.
It stays in the carve in a most composed way. When other boards give it up and bounce out of the line it just holds and holds.
I tried it back to back w my friend who rides my last year pro and the difference can clearly be felt. The pro is great and better then gen4, but the pro2 is a great improvement.
It is also very forgiving in bumpy slopes and when you ride slow/tired/ not carving. Very versatile. I even had a chance to go into deep snow this weekend in Austria (a very "uncarving" experience) and it was very good.
Possibly the best alpine board money can buy, definitely the best value for money.
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Re: Feedback on the Swoard Extremecarver Pro2
Hello,
Sorry for my english and thanks to GoogleTranslate!
Yesterday first outing with my Extremcarver Pro2. My report:
POPOPO IT'S SO GOOOOOD !!!!!!!!!!! How is it "not very objective"?
Pro2 168M new tested with RC8 size 26 and F2 Race Titanium size M 6mm, 47 ° / 54 ° and stance 51cm for 1m82 / 73kg, after about 7 years in EC Gen 3, in Courchevel:
Used mostly for carving on red slopes. With the Pro1.1 test I sometimes had trouble completing my turns, especially back. With the Pro2 I did not have this problem, but difficult to know if it comes from the driver or the board. I found it very easy to ride at all speeds. It still has this extraordinary snow touch discovered with the Pro1.1 test, she swallows the imperfections of the track without moving, not once the nose bounce in the bumps, even at high speed, and I never had the heel that bounce in backside as it often happened with my Gen3. The grip seems infinite even on irregularities and changes of snow, so it gives a lot of confidence in carving fast without problems.
For the extreme carving I have not really been able to test, but i could make some non-chained turns on less steep slopes and it never had problems, as on the arrivals in Vitelli turn (front + back), so it's very promising.
I made some runs in powder and it seemed very easy and effective, but I can not say if it comes from the board or the snow that seemed perfect. Last point I could ride most of the day, and considering my lack of physical preparation, for a first of the season it's almost an achievement!
So to summarize, and objectively:
The pro2, POPOPO IT'S SO GOOOOOD !!!!!!!!!!!
Edit after 4 outputs:
All the impressions are confirmed: this board is really very effective, super cushioning even in difficult conditions, much less tiring than my Gen3, everything is more easily and faster, in EC backside I have the armpit that rubs every time, even when you take off on a bump while lying down she replaces without problem. In powder, it is not his program, and yet it is the same it is very easy and effective. I really did not think that a board could change my ride at this point, or maybe it was me that suddenly became very good!
I still found a fault: catching every fault makes the rider lazy! It happens regularly to have a turn that you think perfect and looking at the track there are jerks. But you can not really blame hit for being too efficient!
Sorry for my english and thanks to GoogleTranslate!
Yesterday first outing with my Extremcarver Pro2. My report:
POPOPO IT'S SO GOOOOOD !!!!!!!!!!! How is it "not very objective"?
Pro2 168M new tested with RC8 size 26 and F2 Race Titanium size M 6mm, 47 ° / 54 ° and stance 51cm for 1m82 / 73kg, after about 7 years in EC Gen 3, in Courchevel:
Used mostly for carving on red slopes. With the Pro1.1 test I sometimes had trouble completing my turns, especially back. With the Pro2 I did not have this problem, but difficult to know if it comes from the driver or the board. I found it very easy to ride at all speeds. It still has this extraordinary snow touch discovered with the Pro1.1 test, she swallows the imperfections of the track without moving, not once the nose bounce in the bumps, even at high speed, and I never had the heel that bounce in backside as it often happened with my Gen3. The grip seems infinite even on irregularities and changes of snow, so it gives a lot of confidence in carving fast without problems.
For the extreme carving I have not really been able to test, but i could make some non-chained turns on less steep slopes and it never had problems, as on the arrivals in Vitelli turn (front + back), so it's very promising.
I made some runs in powder and it seemed very easy and effective, but I can not say if it comes from the board or the snow that seemed perfect. Last point I could ride most of the day, and considering my lack of physical preparation, for a first of the season it's almost an achievement!
So to summarize, and objectively:
The pro2, POPOPO IT'S SO GOOOOOD !!!!!!!!!!!
Edit after 4 outputs:
All the impressions are confirmed: this board is really very effective, super cushioning even in difficult conditions, much less tiring than my Gen3, everything is more easily and faster, in EC backside I have the armpit that rubs every time, even when you take off on a bump while lying down she replaces without problem. In powder, it is not his program, and yet it is the same it is very easy and effective. I really did not think that a board could change my ride at this point, or maybe it was me that suddenly became very good!
I still found a fault: catching every fault makes the rider lazy! It happens regularly to have a turn that you think perfect and looking at the track there are jerks. But you can not really blame hit for being too efficient!
Swoard Pro2-168M / F2 Race Titanium / UPZ RC8
Re: Feedback on the Swoard Extremecarver Pro2
Last week end I take on my riding time , to do a side by side test of the Pro2 vs my Pro1.1
This was last week end in Zinal on Le Col. The conditions were perfect: perfect snow for EC.
In this condition I was thinking to myself that with such ideal condition for EC, I will not see and feel any differences between my Pro1.1 and Pro2, as I m very happy with my Pro, it is already a very very good board!
But it was bad thoughts... and at my first run on Le Col (right after having done it with my Pro1.1) I feel the difference ... incredible...
I totally agree with Matti I feel Pro2 more stable, mainly at high speed EC, keeping agility that I love on Pro1.1 and making EC even easier.
Good job to all the tech guys from the Team that drive to this result ... and wish you good luck for Pro3 : marge for improvement is smaller and smaller... and smaller..
It was hard to give it back at the end of the morning to another tester ...
Anthony
This was last week end in Zinal on Le Col. The conditions were perfect: perfect snow for EC.
In this condition I was thinking to myself that with such ideal condition for EC, I will not see and feel any differences between my Pro1.1 and Pro2, as I m very happy with my Pro, it is already a very very good board!
But it was bad thoughts... and at my first run on Le Col (right after having done it with my Pro1.1) I feel the difference ... incredible...
I totally agree with Matti I feel Pro2 more stable, mainly at high speed EC, keeping agility that I love on Pro1.1 and making EC even easier.
Good job to all the tech guys from the Team that drive to this result ... and wish you good luck for Pro3 : marge for improvement is smaller and smaller... and smaller..
It was hard to give it back at the end of the morning to another tester ...
Anthony
Re: Feedback on the Swoard Extremecarver Pro2
Just a message of life after trying out the “Swoard Extremecarver Pro2 168M” and the new Swoard Redline2 bindings a few weekends in Sierra Nevada.
The board absorbs bumps much better than the Swoard Extremecarver Gen2 168H. No offence but the Gen2 compares as a metal door to the Pro2.
I did some heavy extreme-carving this weekend (as its pretty empty these days) eventually also on hard and icy pistes. To my surprise, after 20 years of carving, it stuck well also on the very hard and icy pistes. Laid down turns on icy pistes makes actually a hell of a noise. I didn't know that (as I had never done it) but I was pleasantly surprised.
The laid down back side is – for some reason – also easier. Riding the Pro2 triggers a kind of “Just do it” mentality. Just dive into the turns and the board will follow regardless the piste.
I can only have good words. I'm very happy with my (double) purchase.
Keep up the great work guys.
The board absorbs bumps much better than the Swoard Extremecarver Gen2 168H. No offence but the Gen2 compares as a metal door to the Pro2.
I did some heavy extreme-carving this weekend (as its pretty empty these days) eventually also on hard and icy pistes. To my surprise, after 20 years of carving, it stuck well also on the very hard and icy pistes. Laid down turns on icy pistes makes actually a hell of a noise. I didn't know that (as I had never done it) but I was pleasantly surprised.
The laid down back side is – for some reason – also easier. Riding the Pro2 triggers a kind of “Just do it” mentality. Just dive into the turns and the board will follow regardless the piste.
I can only have good words. I'm very happy with my (double) purchase.
Keep up the great work guys.
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